EVE General Discussion

And anyone who set 500+ accounts up and got 500+ ships, set them all up on the SAME email.
If they didn't set them up on the same email and therefore far easier than your worst case scenario to track, they didn't get the ships.
So yes, you are still going on about a problem that doesn't exist.

If you read the GM's response, you'd have noticed the part about how much time it takes to track everything.

And how how accurate we were about all of the difficulties with tracking it.

And how there is a finite amount of time they can spend on this.

Following the money is not a magical process where you push one button, know all and see all.

It's grueling work with spreadsheets that makes most EVE spreadsheets look simple. Everyone knew this was an exploit, and everyone knew this was coming. Having personally tracked the flow of exploited assets in an MMO myself (more than once) I can assure you that most exploiters began with precautions to hide their assets. And they are creative little *****.

Some hope to lose you by process of exhaustion, with trade after trade after trade, through numerous accounts, in numerous directions, using various exchange methods. This is an annoying deterrent at best, but it is very effective at wasting available man-hours.

The smartest ones create reasonable doubt to keep you from distinguishing their assets from other players'. They acquire items from themselves on accounts that have no common identifying feature (VPN IP, separate email address, different physical computer or emulated virtual machine). By doing this, they blur the distinction between legitimate trades and their own assets. Done correctly, the evidence becomes murky enough that even if you are pretty sure about it*, you can't proceed in good conscience, without the possibility of screwing over an innocent player.

Seem extreme? It is, but it's also reality because anyone taking the time to set up 500+ accounts isn't doing it for the ISK. They're in it for the RMT, no doubt about it.

So yes, there is hiding of assets. Back to the matter at hand. I think it is worth the few minutes (for the staff, not the forum peanut gallery) to consider how they will make sure no one dodges their consequences, because it is not only possible, but likely.

* Pretty much every modern MMO scans the non-personal identifying features of your hardware, such as install path, computer user name, network name, and MAC address.

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Can I have your stuff.

Players these days are just a bunch of pansies, aren't they.

I think I am legitimately done with the game. Why bother playing the game and making isk when you can pull stuff like this and make so much more?

I see many of these problems tied to the fact of the ghost training exploit that many people had claimed they reported weeks ago but CCP seemed to care less and say nothing about.

Ghost training was talked about so casually it had posts on youtube telling everyone how to do it and included was the fact it was reported and nothing was said back about it, giving the average player an opinion it was ok.

I don't see how you can treat an exploit so casually then turn on a dime in 1 day because it finally did something extremely harmful.

It WAS reported, they did nothing, and there should be consequences for those who did nothing.