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[MERC] Vendetta Mercenary Group

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Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1701 - 2017-06-14 12:30:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Dom Arkaral
And btw

Why would someone pay you to gank people if CODE. already does that service more efficiently than you will for free? Lol
Also, that would put VMG in the Ultimate Bottom-Feeders category of EVE (you'd be the first ones there too XD)

Btw Noneck, you forgot to mention a thorax plus another one that ran away
I gave them props for trying (which is more than many do)

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1702 - 2017-06-14 12:47:55 UTC
gnshadowninja wrote:
You know your falling on an argument people used against us when I was in Marmite "All your kills are in X place with X ships", I won't deny anything and also admit I do it myself because I can get on with rl whilst doing it, sitting watching a station for 2 hours then running to the toilet to find the target gone isn't great fun and hunting has became more of a full time job as Devils have discussed many times.

Ganking has alot to do with business and possibly the future if some people got their way with CCP about changing the mechanic's. For example, why would I hire Marmite when I know VMG would deliver 100% success rate even if the member left corp/alliance.
Of course I know this. Why do you think I keep calling VMG, the Marmite clone of 3 years ago. But that doesnt make it suddenly better. And I'm prety sure your clients arent happy, as I spoken to a few who now just hire Marmites. Thank you for that. Big smile

Someone mailed me your alliance mail this morning. So you know this has nothing to do with a business model. I do agree, you spinned it in a nice way. Couldnt have done it better myself. Blink

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gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1703 - 2017-06-14 13:07:58 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
You know your falling on an argument people used against us when I was in Marmite "All your kills are in X place with X ships", I won't deny anything and also admit I do it myself because I can get on with rl whilst doing it, sitting watching a station for 2 hours then running to the toilet to find the target gone isn't great fun and hunting has became more of a full time job as Devils have discussed many times.

Ganking has alot to do with business and possibly the future if some people got their way with CCP about changing the mechanic's. For example, why would I hire Marmite when I know VMG would deliver 100% success rate even if the member left corp/alliance.
Of course I know this. Why do you think I keep calling VMG, the Marmite clone of 3 years ago. But that doesnt make it suddenly better. And I'm prety sure your clients arent happy, as I spoken to a few who now just hire Marmites. Thank you for that. Big smile

Someone mailed me your alliance mail this morning. So you know this has nothing to do with a business model. I do agree, you spinned it in a nice way. Couldnt have done it better myself. Blink


Marmite hasn't changed since 3 years ago, you just moved location and try to portray your different.
Honestly I don't care how our members or yours fly/where/how, as long as everyone's enjoying their gameplay and still interested in playing Eve.

Devils along with others cry about how the hunting mechanics were ruined, they failed to adapt (which there are still ways to hunt) and quit the game yet bash people for creating content through the only means that were left by CCP.
renwahh
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1704 - 2017-06-14 13:20:10 UTC  |  Edited by: renwahh
So your basically saying Devils should create a big blue donut so they can fly around Jita and monkey hang from stargates killing whatever comes through?.

What VMG (not all) are currently doing is hub camping one system. Which I'm guessing is better than 1 station, which I think a lot of mercs did 3 years ago so your not actually adapting. Your doing what other people have done already.

The only difference is your not getting chased by other mercs as most are in your big blue.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1705 - 2017-06-14 13:21:00 UTC
gnshadowninja wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
You know your falling on an argument people used against us when I was in Marmite "All your kills are in X place with X ships", I won't deny anything and also admit I do it myself because I can get on with rl whilst doing it, sitting watching a station for 2 hours then running to the toilet to find the target gone isn't great fun and hunting has became more of a full time job as Devils have discussed many times.

Ganking has alot to do with business and possibly the future if some people got their way with CCP about changing the mechanic's. For example, why would I hire Marmite when I know VMG would deliver 100% success rate even if the member left corp/alliance.
Of course I know this. Why do you think I keep calling VMG, the Marmite clone of 3 years ago. But that doesnt make it suddenly better. And I'm prety sure your clients arent happy, as I spoken to a few who now just hire Marmites. Thank you for that. Big smile

Someone mailed me your alliance mail this morning. So you know this has nothing to do with a business model. I do agree, you spinned it in a nice way. Couldnt have done it better myself. Blink


Marmite hasn't changed since 3 years ago, you just moved location and try to portray your different.
Honestly I don't care how our members or yours fly/where/how, as long as everyone's enjoying their gameplay and still interested in playing Eve.

Devils along with others cry about how the hunting mechanics were ruined, they failed to adapt (which there are still ways to hunt) and quit the game yet bash people for creating content through the only means that were left by CCP.

I was there when Tora made the decision to have more hunting members than camping members, it worked better and people were happier. And the watchlist Nerf kinda screwed that up for every group not relying on hubcap ingame and mass-decs.

Idk if you listened to that interview I think Raz linked, but Khromius was proud of his hunting guys, and did say he'd never hub camp (ikr)

I did hub camps and hunting, and camping compares more to POCO bashing than to anything else.. at least you needed some skill to go out on roams and not being the hunted ;)

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Khromius
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1706 - 2017-06-14 13:29:13 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
Interesting you wish to talk about isolated hunting, how's Agil & Balle? Cool

Unfortunately work has taken alot of my time recently so I cannot comment on which contracts you refer too but being a hunter myself I would say expanding into ganking will furthermore put our business model over Marmites.
Why? Because targets are not stupid nowadays, I've never seen so much corp dropping and switching until the recent months and contracted targets avoiding our mechanics. You know this yourself.

Ganking opens many oppunitites, ask some of your members who have been ganked by VMG alts. Were always watching.
I think I proven that so many times with zkillboard info. Not doing it again. And you are one of the few VMG who actually hunt targets. No questions there. Your ganking has 0 to do with business models. Some VMG realised shooting fish in a barrel all day is Jita area is boring as hell and want to have a side thing. At least that's a small step in the right direction.

I hope you're not denying here, that 85% of VMG's kills are Jita area? And you mainly get them in T3 with at least 4-5 logi. The rest are freighters on the border HS/LS. And sometimes you "hunt" waiting in a WH thinking your enemies are stupid, then leave again.



VMG in WH thinking our enemies are stupid? That's preposterous Tora. Everyone knows we don't leave Jita and our stupid enemies are free to fly anywhere they please.
Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1707 - 2017-06-14 13:29:41 UTC
Looking for a high quality hunting machine.

Hire us to do your dirty work in high sec.

We specialise in creating tears.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1708 - 2017-06-14 13:50:55 UTC
Khromius wrote:
VMG in WH thinking our enemies are stupid? That's preposterous Tora. Everyone knows we don't leave Jita and our stupid enemies are free to fly anywhere they please.
Even a nerd get's lucky sometimes Blink

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gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1709 - 2017-06-14 14:05:14 UTC
renwahh wrote:
So your basically saying Devils should create a big blue donut so they can fly around Jita and monkey hang from stargates killing whatever comes through?.

What VMG (not all) are currently doing is hub camping one system. Which I'm guessing is better than 1 station, which I think a lot of mercs did 3 years ago so your not actually adapting. Your doing what other people have done already.

The only difference is your not getting chased by other mercs as most are in your big blue.



Instead they quit, great argument. Roll
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1710 - 2017-06-14 14:11:09 UTC
gnshadowninja wrote:
renwahh wrote:
So your basically saying Devils should create a big blue donut so they can fly around Jita and monkey hang from stargates killing whatever comes through?.

What VMG (not all) are currently doing is hub camping one system. Which I'm guessing is better than 1 station, which I think a lot of mercs did 3 years ago so your not actually adapting. Your doing what other people have done already.

The only difference is your not getting chased by other mercs as most are in your big blue.



Instead they quit, great argument. Roll

If they quit, why is it they have sov? Question

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renwahh
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1711 - 2017-06-14 14:14:20 UTC  |  Edited by: renwahh
gnshadowninja wrote:
renwahh wrote:
So your basically saying Devils should create a big blue donut so they can fly around Jita and monkey hang from stargates killing whatever comes through?.

What VMG (not all) are currently doing is hub camping one system. Which I'm guessing is better than 1 station, which I think a lot of mercs did 3 years ago so your not actually adapting. Your doing what other people have done already.

The only difference is your not getting chased by other mercs as most are in your big blue.



Instead they quit, great argument. Roll


I find it strange everyone reverts to a "argument" comment.
Devils haven't quit, they are still there but they maybe not on a devils account. If they choose not to sit on a gate waiting for targets as they find it mundane in EvE thats up to them. However I know atleast 6 that are happily blowing stuff up elsewhere. They adapted in a different manner than your referring to and engaged there brain in a better way of running there own personal EvE content.

You yourself I rarely see around Jita and thats ace. Your an old school hunter which I give props to.
Khromius
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1712 - 2017-06-14 14:33:28 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Khromius wrote:
VMG in WH thinking our enemies are stupid? That's preposterous Tora. Everyone knows we don't leave Jita and our stupid enemies are free to fly anywhere they please.
Even a nerd get's lucky sometimes Blink



Yeah "Luck" that's the ticket...
gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1713 - 2017-06-14 14:36:17 UTC
renwahh wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
renwahh wrote:
So your basically saying Devils should create a big blue donut so they can fly around Jita and monkey hang from stargates killing whatever comes through?.

What VMG (not all) are currently doing is hub camping one system. Which I'm guessing is better than 1 station, which I think a lot of mercs did 3 years ago so your not actually adapting. Your doing what other people have done already.

The only difference is your not getting chased by other mercs as most are in your big blue.



Instead they quit, great argument. Roll


I find it strange everyone reverts to a "argument" comment.
Devils haven't quit, they are still there but they maybe not on a devils account. If they choose not to sit on a gate waiting for targets as they find it mundane in EvE thats up to them. However I know atleast 6 that are happily blowing stuff up elsewhere. They adapted in a different manner than your referring to and engaged there brain in a better way of running there own personal EvE content.

You yourself I rarely see around Jita and thats ace. Your an old school hunter which I give props to.


I retract my last statement, as far as I was concerned by their posts they had quit the game and that the fight on the citadel was the last.
Lew Dicrous
4th Line
#1714 - 2017-06-14 18:36:22 UTC
I can confirm they're quite active and enjoying the new scenery.

It burns when I PVP
Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#1715 - 2017-06-14 21:08:16 UTC
Lew Dicrous wrote:
I can confirm they're quite active and enjoying the new scenery.

They going to continue to take sov in fountain or just own the one area?

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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1716 - 2017-06-14 22:35:49 UTC
Lew Dicrous wrote:
I can confirm they're quite active and enjoying the new scenery.

Post on your main or gtfo
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#1717 - 2017-06-14 23:11:32 UTC
Natural CloneKiller wrote:
Lew Dicrous wrote:
I can confirm they're quite active and enjoying the new scenery.

Post on your main or gtfo

pretty sure Lew is a main
how do we know you're the main btw? Lol

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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1718 - 2017-06-15 05:28:46 UTC
Hire VMG today and we will hunt down your enemies.

Need a citadel defending or taking down?

Want someone's corpse as a prize? Hire VMG.
Lew Dicrous
4th Line
#1719 - 2017-06-15 06:04:20 UTC
Natural CloneKiller wrote:
Hire VMG today and we will hunt down your enemies.

Need a citadel defending or taking down?

Want someone's corpse as a prize? Hire VMG.


Post on your main or gtfo.

It burns when I PVP
gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1720 - 2017-06-15 20:47:14 UTC
Shout out to RVB for the great fight! Nearly had me you cheeky buggers Blink