Intergalactic Summit

You say the nicest things.

I look forward to seeing you in space, then.

Not for the current times, Admiral?

Have you lost your faith in the toy war?

I heard of that. And yes, I suspect we will meet on the field, though I would personally prefer otherwise.

I am open to hearing all suggestions to what I, personally, could do to bring up peace. As you so bluntly point out, the current situation is not working in our advantage; however, the price you are paying is very high, too. Maybe peace would be best for all.

I have neither the authority nor the will to negotiate a peace between EM and PIE. Any such talks would have to follow government decisions to disarm - not precede them.

As to governments - "just get rid of the absurdity". If it only was for lack of trying.

Either I completely understand what Miss Rhiannon is trying to pose as argument or I have lost the whole subject in its entirety. I would like however, to offer my opinion in this,and will begin by making a grouping of the main arguments raised before the initial thread as to see where we all are at.

Argumentation grouping 1) The Republic cant/shouldnt enter a total war cause....war,economics, lack of technology etc etc

Argumentation grouping 2) The wars are sort of pointless. The Republic needs help and work. There is a good chance the Republic can negotiate with the Empire.

Argumentation grouping 3) Personal Remarks towards Miss Rhiannon

Leaving argumentation grouping 3 aside as its not my position take part in matters such as these, I will add that to me at least argumentation grouping 1 and 2(as could provide for interesting debate materials on other topics) have completely missed the points raised by Miss Rhiannon, at least as I understood them.

Here is what I understood:

1) The Empire could get a lot better both economically and military wise and that couldnt actually be good for the Republic(hence the comments on where the Republic stood in the past and comments about lost opportunities)

2) The fact that a 'merchant' Empress is at the helm of the Empire isnt reassuring in itself.

3) What are the Tribal opinions and course of action of how the Republic should proceed?

4) Fighting for freeing more Minmatar has been the spark and the unifying symbol for all. Let alone the lives that were dedicated towards that goal and more importantly the lives lost for that one, and as added bonus, what about the ones being still enslaved by the Empire?

Now, I would like the author(if so she pleases to do so) to state whether or not I have understood correctly what she intended to convey.

I wont state my personal opinions on the matter as a sign of respect towards the author of this topic. I will say however, that its my belief that anyone who has invested into this war(regardless of how much and in what way) understands fundamentally how each faction works and what makes it tick. With that being said, the only personal remark I will leave into this, is that I would like to see a debate held from individuals who have been part of this endeavor for a long time, from the Republic side, over what they think over the points that have been raised by Miss Rhiannon(and why not add to them?).

All this assuming I understood correctly what the author was aiming at.

This should be completely reassuring. A Merchant will understand that the Empire will never improve their baseline efficiency while maintaining the social and cultural institution of slavery. A Merchant will understand that the slaves are, at once, the biggest stumbling block in negotiations between the Matari tribes and the Empire and also the Empire's biggest pool of negotiating collateral.

This should be a thing to rejoice at.

You mean the page where both of them said 'peace would be nice, but we have no authority to actually make it happen'?

Yeah. Totally productive.

Unless she feels her own personal interests are best served by cutting deals with the zealots within the Empire, rather than the pragmatists who aren't likely to get close enough to bury a dagger in her back.

I think expecting actual peace talks to come from a ninth page discussion on the IGS would be a bit unrealistic.

Seriously speaking, though, it was interesting and you never know what will develop.

If EM ever decides that the usurpers have gone far enough that they can no longer play the loyal opposition, then PIE might be open to ending hostility with EM and perhaps even in working with them against the usurpers.

Now, I doubt, strongly, that they will ever take me up on this offer. I expect that their loyalism to the Republic is strong enough that it blinds them to the fact that the state they are loyal to died almost a decade ago. I also expect that the optics of being neutral towards Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris while working against their own people would be a more bitter pill than they could ever stomach.

But if I am wrong about either of those assumptions, I would be pleased to hear it.

To elaborate on my initial statement about Elsebeth's post: I do not wish Elsebeth luck in restoring the pre-war situation because that situation was dangerous and foolish and directly produced the current idiocy. However, I do pray that God aids Elsebeth and other intelligent Matari like her in finding a solution that will produce a lasting peace rather than another cold war. I will even go so far to say that I promise that I will personally do what I can to aid that goal should the opportunity arise.