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Setup? Oh please. It's not like Providence is the only region with a lot of outposts. There's outposts everywhere. The only reason you have a target on your back now is because a region that is normally useless to anyone suddenly became useful for something. If you can't defend your own outposts please tell me why you should even be allowed to keep them? Are we playing the same game here?

Says a representative of the once largest blob in the game who simply packed up and ran when they finally got the war they had been asking for.

If we learned nothing else from WWB, it is that no matter how big you are a determined group will beat you down - take what is yours - and in Goons case, with little fuss.

Provi has always been the place others go when they want good fights or to just stomp on others. The thing Provi residents had going for them was that no matter how badly they got stomped the main infrastructure to rebuild (the many outposts they have built over the years) was always there.

TigerXtrm - If you can be bothered, take a look at DotLan and you might just notice Provi has the highest concentration of outposts of any region in the game.

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A couple of weeks or even months of preparation to end up with an item that (you can't really put a price on) can never be replaced, who isn't planning for that already??

Again, yours aren't the only outposts at stake. Every outpost, of every group, big and small, is being changed to a Citadel. The game has changed, infrastructure is now much more vulnerable. That's part of the game design changes CCP set out to make. And what is essentially happening with Providence is that the groups living there have only been 'allowed' to grow to their current size because no-one had an interest in evicting them. No-one wanted to bother taking over the region because no-one wants to own the region. It's really that simple. If your only viable defense of these outposts used to be "we'll take them back when the bullies leave" then you don't deserve to have them, period. Adapt or die.

In other words, if you can't defend your outposts now, you couldn't have defended them before. And the only reason you've made it this long is because other groups let you. Say what you want about the Casino War, but any entity is welcome to try and steal our outposts in Delve and I will guarantee it won't be worth the trouble for anyone. Stealing the outposts in Provi is relatively easy and can be done with minimal losses. That's the difference. Is that fair? No. But EVE isn't a fair game. See it as paying the price for being left to prosper for so long with relatively little opposition.

You are making some valid points there, but you're drawing the wrong conclusions. What you are saying actually supports our argument.

A large factor in the survival of Provi has indeed been that it's a crap area and nobody else wants it. It's a bit smelly and run down. For those of you in the UK, think of Reading. So, over the years, the Big Boys have grabbed the juicy regions, and the poor cousins who didn't have the military clout took Providence and made the best they could of it. People come for good fights, but nobody wants to stay, that's been our defence. And that is precisely how a sandbox should work. It evolves, it develops over time in response to the environment.

And then one day along come CCP and wave a magic wand and Provi becomes valuable. The balance is shattered - deliberately shattered. Adapt or die? We have spent more than 10 years adapting to our environment and the political landscape. But you can't adapt to a change that is just dumped on you from above, that suddenly turns a craphole into a gold mine. That is deliberate content engineering by CCP, and it has no place in a sandbox game.

Imagine you are wandering around inside the lion enclosure at the zoo, and you don't get eaten because you are a bit scrawny and smell wrong. (Nothing personal, I don't know if you are scrawny or how you smell, it's just an analogy.) Then suddenly I get a hosepipe and spray you head to toe in "Eau De Antelope." How are you going to adapt to that? The only reason you went in the lion enclosure in the first place was because you knew you weren't appetising, and now I've given you the lion equivalent of a Michelin star. You can't adapt to that, because I have deliberately engineered the whole situation.

Buying popcorn now. Who will want this high concentration of easy pickings more... The Imperium, NC/PL, others?

you are just sharpening your teeth for isk you dont deserve and should not have. Teling here is a not way to transit it without hurt is just a lie.

Plenty of content to go around. This just creates more of it.

Can't see the big picture? I feel sorry for you, being so narrow minded must be hard.

What CCP will achieve from this is the loss of a play style many have put a lot of time and effort into creating, from both Provi residents and those who go to fight them.
Eve is the ultimate loser if NRDS space is opened up to be ransacked.

Oh and just to be clear - Even after these changes, no-one else will want Provi except Provi residents.

And i really do call BS to your comment about everyone who owns outposts facing the same risk..
That's a comment someone who doesn't live in nul would make, simply because they don't know any better. You should..


NB; I'm not a provi resident, I hunt and die there (occasionally) AND enjoy the content, which I've struggled to find elsewhere, the region brings.,.

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If CCP is fixed on the idea of changing outposts and making them unanchorable there needs to be a mechanic that stops them being easily relocated (or left in someones hangar as a collectors item)
These are an iconic part of New Eden that once removed by destruction or un-anchoring can never be replaced. ( a little monument - Is a joke)

Making something that can never be replaced vulnerable to destruction - Not a very realistic long term plan.

Everything destructible is great in an ideal world - Eve is not an ideal world (by design) and so the ideal could have far reaching long term negative outcomes, not just the destruction or removal of and outpost but the extinction of those groups unable to defend against the overpowering blobs.

Suggestion;
You want to take and move one of them, you must own it for 6 months before you can un-anchor it.
Holding outposts takes commitment (even if you "only" take them back once the baddies move on).
As they can never be replaced - The ability to move/remove them, either by destruction or un-anchoring, should take an exceptional commitment.

hmph, it is about preserving a piece of history, forever.

But since you are referencing poland, I will reference Germany, WWII, and everyone involved in that despicable era where pieces of art, history, etc were lost, burned up, sequestered in places unknown that the rest of the world will never get back nor see again. Which has been garbage for the generations that came after that era.

There's nothing artistic about Providence, though.

It's a hole. A condemned hole, for squatter hobbits.