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Same as nevyn said, I haven't heard any plans to make NPC stations like player-owned structures at least in the last year.

Destructible FW stations might actually be an interesting concept though.

E: maybe I'm not understanding that second part. What do you mean by "as far as industrial things go"?

Mobile depot is the word you are looking for

Does this mean only NPC conquerable stations will receive monuments? What about all of the player-built outposts that have a rich history, like 6VDT-H? Will there be a monument with information about who built it, who last owned it and some of the events?

The alternative was just removing them all together. Be glad you're getting something in return.

It would be even more interesting if the Industry Breakdown Image showed a relationship to space security as well.

HIstorically it's been something of a mantra; "if you can fly it before, you will be able to fly it after". So I am asking, if I have it anchored now, why can i not be able to anchor it later". A small POS with Refinery and Component Assembly Array. Be it ever so humble?!

I would remiss if I didn't point out that so far "the promise" has only been kept to mega and large.

I am not sure if I should call it Oh Well instead of Upwell.Or is it Orwell?

The good in good service is a little subjective. As a POS owner myself, I can say I am glad to see them going the way of the Dodo. The lack of automated defense is understandable given the vulnerability windows - no need to automate defense when they cannot be attacked at will outside of the window.

As for the upwell missiles: yeah - would be very nice to have some variety: lasers, hybrids, cannons, etc. At least the larger structures get some fancier weapon systems but the homogeny is boring.

I cannot say much about Outposts as I never built one but the cost difference between an Outpost and a Fortizar is significant. Considering the primary benefit of an Outpost over a POS was constancy, turning these Outposts into glorified Fortizars is a significant kick in head for these owners.

If CCP sees through turning Outposts into Fortizars then they should compensate the current outpost owners: as of the fanfest announcement (because any change in ownership after which is suspect in motivation) in some fashion. The loss of permanence on any of these structures is not to be underestimated nor blithely 'compensated' with a structure that can be destroyed. There is no parity with a tricked out faction fortizar and an Outpost. So Parity must be achieved in another fashion. ISK, one or more faction citadel BPCs, but something to the as of the Fanfest announcement to those current owners.

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CCP Fozzie, you mentioned the Citadels being littered about; that you think they are too easy to maintain- simplest way to make them require maintenance: allow the structure to be entosised during its vulnerability. once Entosised the structure begins the unanchor process (or it cancels it if the structure is already unanchoring). If the owner is paying attention, they can cancel the process. If the owner is not paying attention, then 7 days later the structure unanchors.

Or: require a small amount of fuel hourly for the basic operations of the citadel. If there is no fuel, the citadel remains in place, but functions such as tethering, defenses, office access, repair, etc, are all turned off. You can still dock, you can still undock, you can store your stuff and ships in your own hanger, you just cannot get any other functionality and no protection until there is fuel in the fuel bay. Does not need to be a lot, but a token amount to ensure the structure is 'maintained'.

Yes they did.

Fozzie really doesn't like Providence and never did. It's not the only action where his bias is glaringly obvious. He's had two years to come up with a workable plan, and this was his design and programming 'best effort'. Truly laughable. Alternatives have been offered, viable one's, even at this late date here ... *crickets*

What is truly puzzling is Providence as a region played the game to it's maximum potential with structures - the way devs designed it - by planting stations in every system and working hard together, as a team, to do that. It took years. And in a few short months, Fozzie will make sure it's destroyed by literally painting a bullseye on our backs.

Fair enough. Maybe not 'destroyed'. Is 'robbed' a more appropriate description?

It's not like Providence lacks content. We don't mind the content. It's here every day. KBP/Dital - the Sev3rance and Yulai pocket entrace - is one of the deadliest pipes in the game for player vs. player content. Then there's the Catch pipe from HED, also at our doorstep. Newbros and veterans come here daily for fights in NRDS space and we oblige gladly.

We love content and gf's.

What we don't like is being 'setup' by a dev who clearly has an ax to grind with Providence and has lost touch with the very player base he seeks to attract.

Please don't remove starbases. Just nerf them if you have to. People already really love citadels. You've already greatly improved the quality of player-owned stations. Can we keep starbases as a relic?