EVE General Discussion

legit you are a noob.
GET GUD

Let's race for #600. Don't bully me.

Some people will never understand that everything is rigged, in this case it is CCP's right to rig their game however they like. Just like a lottery scratchcard. I don't care what anyone says or how much what I say annoys you but there are ways to avoid being ganked and it is our way of thinking that can get us into a gank situation. By nature people rush and want to move all their investments in one go. People are obsessed with having the best of everything there are lots of shiny ships waiting to be ganked.

Eve is a game that can punish you severely if you make the wrong choice. I'm afraid its the players that make it easy for the gankers.

it is.
if he starts mailing any of ye report him,
if memory serves , he does a good impression of a vile sack of shite
and was rightly ... forum rule #11

I see it used in a lot of games by the no-life neckbeards that are jealous of people who do things they will never do. Things like getting a tan, living in their own home, having a full time job, talking to a real woman, etc.

You'd think being called a casual would be a source of pride.

Mr Epeen

But that is the key part, if it is so obviously rigged I can choose not to participate and say why which I and Herzog have, the speed at which the EHP of the wrecks got upgraded was shocking even for me who knew of the bias.

Yesterday I moved about 650k m3 in two DSTworth about 4bn, it took me multiple trips, there was only one trip where I was worth ganking, and that included the overheated tank in my calculations, people should note that DST's have a heat bonus and that with bling mods you can seriously ruin peoples day if they do try to gank you. I agree with you, too many people make it too easy, you learnt that yourself too and I am not gloating either. Someone tried to gank my badger when I just started playing and failed, because I had fitted a tank.

People with a brain should have a look at the end game of freighter moving, which is a webber for the freighter set to fast align against a sensor boosted blackbird to suicide tackle to enable the Mach to get on them. Go and do the maths and then real life tests on the test server.

I will use a jump reighter in hisec, which will have emergency cyno's ready to go, I should also point out that the freighter service for my alliance does not use freighters from Jita, doesn't that say it all.


Remiel stated that people who say ganking is easy said that we have not ganked, well Herzog has ganked as have I as antii-gankers, but I had a ganker account for obvious reasons and that one did gank a lot. On my own as an AG it was difficult, with CODE and Miniluv organisation it was damn easy.

Finally just to point out that I post on the forums with Dracvlad and Lucas and that is it, well one other toon once after Malcanis was stupid, but that was fun.

Casual, yes it is a trigger word, because causal play is the issue for Eve which is mainly why subscriptions have tanked. But there are enough people playing for it still to be fun. o7

I'm talking about PvP. You know how many freighters I've killed in low null wh? Single digits soloing / multiboxing.

You know how many I could kill per day in high? Likely as many or more than my 15 years total playing EvE, per day, ganking with multiboxed bombers. That's how ridiculously easy it is. That is wrong. Those who go out to null, low and WH should be rewarded not idiots hiding behind concord exploiting a broken system.

As for freighters being webbed, there is the issue with suicide points to consider.

Agreed. Not sure how we can reasonably buff ganking to fix the issue. Maybe longer CONCORD response times? Personally, I like Black Pedro's idea of essentially deleting bumping (for freighters, anyway), but making pointing a freighter a suspect level offence. While a nerf to ganking overall, it should make for some interesting ganker vs anti-ganker encounters.

Doesn't matter. Running an incursion solo with a dozen alts or killing a freighter with your dozen alts use the exact same things. Yet I don't see you ever calling for nerfs to highsec incursions even though multiboxing incursions earns vastly more Isk.



No. You can get that many because there is a much higher concentration of freighters in highsec. For every freighter you find taking a gate in null there are several thousand in highsec.


Kill that ship then..

Incursions take a crapload of time and there is plenty of competition for them. They also require specialized blinged out ships. Ganking requires a bunch of SB worth max 40 mill each.

No the reason you don't get lots of freighters is not only numbers. A significant barrier is people can and will kill you for trying before you attack. People have intelligence networks and hotdrops. You can't hide behind concord. You dont have the option to afk float an alt freighter tp scoop and scoot. Its much more risky and difficult in space without concord.

Only need a point to stop initial web warp then its screwed. You could easily stick 1 point on each bomber but its not necessary.