EVE General Discussion

While this is true, CCP has also most clearly stated in their new player faq that EVE is a full blown pvp game at it's core. Any new player not reading the new player faq of an mmorpg... *shrug*.

As far as corps and wardecs go: A corp is just an ingame asset essentially. If you cannot defend it, it goes boom.

Problem starts, once players begin to attach emotions and / or memories to it. Maybe CCP really should think about implementing some sort of social club you can join. But functionally that shouldn't exceed a sort of a badge, that gets attached to a character and an additional, separate chat channel.

To end the wardec arguments once and for all, the game should print in blood-red in the corporation application page that "Once you accepted to join a player owned corporation, other players can pay Concord a fee to ignore their aggressive actions to you in high security spaces."

Can't argue with that (as long as they are not perma wdeccing me that is ).

It is a fact, not an assumption, that players should know to make informed decision.

YOU LIKE SPAECSHIPS?
YOU NO LIKE HISEC SHENANIGANS?

Get out of hisec.

YOU NO LEAVE HISEC?
YOU GET BEAT IN FAEC AND ANUS ALL DAY ERR DAY?

Tough luck.

YOU USE BRAINS AND TIME TO CLING TO HISEC LIEK BIONIC TICK FOR THAT DANK 6M ISK PER HOUR?

inb4 i make trillions daily in hisec

These threads are just awful.

With contributions like that no wonder the thread is just awful. So the 'using brain' decision is toget out of highsec, which brings me back to my original statement, get rid of wardecs or get rid of highsec, at least then player expectations would match reality.

I could stop playing tomorrow and have no effect on the in game market. Saying that using the market is pvp is almost laughable. Market trading is not pvp, it's market trading. Yes, what I sell or buy comes from another player, but the market for near anything is so saturated that I alone have very little effect on prices. I mean sure, siting in a trade hub 0.01 isking is market pvp, but I don't think that's what you were talking about.

When this type of thread gets beyond a few pages (or sometimes a few posts) it starts looking like every other thread on hi/lo/null decs&ganks.

(Or maybe I just need a real break from my coursework)

Gunna be honest, new players shouldn't be creating corps and then trying to do their own thing like that, that's just kids with egos, inadvertently ruining other peoples experiences of the game. For instance, a carebear CEO of a HS corp i know, 2 weeks ago put a raitaru up, with no defences in a LS region owned by purple helms. Obviously he lost his structure and got salty about it, claiming he's going to take revenge etc.

As far as "bullying" goes, this is an online spaceship game, grow a spine and stop being a whiny baby about this crap, the amount of potential and freedom you have in this game, is almost unlimited, and if you're too simple to figure out a way to get the upper hand, and all you want to do is cry and get salty, you need to either find another game or get it through your head that it's a dog it dog game, and there's always a bigger fish, so rather than getting salty and cutting yourself, take advantage of every opportunity you can, and go hard for what you want or where you want to be.

Unlike in life, in EVE you are given the exact same amount of SP and ISK on day 1, and so long as you're not russian, most people will be happy to help you out and answer your questions.

I'm right there with you. There's no getting through to someone who can't see past their own face..You can't fix stupid..