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Aliens in Eve

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tofit
Firesprites
#1 - 2017-02-08 19:49:13 UTC
There are no Aliens in Eve. This is the one complaint my friend has about Eve.
Eve only has several versions of human.
I want to see some aliens. What could I change my race to.
Sasquatch
Reptilian
The Greys

What aliens would you like to be in EVE?
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#2 - 2017-02-08 19:58:19 UTC
No.

Humans are the Aliens. Eve is about Humans. that is what ccp has said for years. There sill not be Aliens, as it just humans being humans. CCP may change there minds, but i doubt it. so no, eve doesn't need Aliens, we are already dicks to each other enough.

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Orakkus
ImperiaI Federation
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2017-02-08 20:04:31 UTC
None. At this point adding sentient aliens would be the video game equivilent of "jumping the shark".

Technically, there are aliens already in Eve, like the Fedos, the Long limb whatisits, Slaver dogs, etc.

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mkint
#4 - 2017-02-08 20:07:01 UTC
Aliens don't have much place in EVE. EVE lore, such as it is, is about how humanity's screw ups come back around to bite them in the ass and how terrible people are to eachother. If aliens had a place in EVE, it would have to be something along the lines of primitive refugees that the human majority are being terrible to, or a nonsentient fungus that influences human brains to make them even more terrible. Ultimately an alien race shouldn't be a playable race, because they'd be impossible to roleplay as anything truly alien rather than just weird looking humans. You'll also notice rogue drones and sleepers aren't playable for what I'd guess are mainly those reasons.

And the biggest problem with introducing an alien race, playable or not, is that CCP isn't very good at keeping up the lore. It's already a random hodgepodge of inconsistent retconned gibberish. Adding a "oh hey remember that one week where there were aliens but then they were never seen or heard from again? Weird, right?" wouldn't really improve anything.

I do miss when EVE had interesting artistic direction, before they went all blando-grimdark, and something more alien would have been more artistically plausible.

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Akane Togenada
Doomheim
#5 - 2017-02-08 20:11:36 UTC
New Edens different aspects of humanity are far more interesting and in many ways terrible then any race of Aliens could ever be.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2017-02-08 20:14:20 UTC
There are Fedos.
2Sonas1Cup
#7 - 2017-02-08 20:16:52 UTC
Sleepers are aliens
Drones are aliens
Seekers are super aliens

Hell I even think the entire Jove is alien.

And you say there's no aliens.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2017-02-08 20:38:24 UTC
The Jove are human, the drones are not lifeforms (although quite alien in the original sense of the word). We have no idea what the sleepers are - might also be human or non-lifeform leftovers of an earlier human culture, and the seekers are basically sleepers. So, yeah. No aliens here, but Fedos.
Terry Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2017-02-08 20:41:52 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
The Jove are human, the drones are not lifeforms (although quite alien in the original sense of the word). We have no idea what the sleepers are - might also be human or non-lifeform leftovers of an earlier human culture, and the seekers are basically sleepers. So, yeah. No aliens here, but Fedos.


Sleepers are survivors of the second Jove empire that decided to live in virtual reality paradises. The seekers are a little unclear, but appear to be related to a rogue artificial superintelligence created by the sleepers (accidentally or on purpose). All sentient life in EVE is either human or a product of humans. No aliens.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#10 - 2017-02-08 20:46:48 UTC
The only aliens we have our our progenitor Terran ancestors. I love the backstory of Eve where humans that survived the dark ages after the EVE gate collapse on several, maybe even dozens of different worlds across the cluster that formed their own languages and societal norms and even spirituality.

Having said that though, ingame open the old World Map and go to the west towards Syndicate - there's a 'Cord of the Elements'

If you right click on it you get this:

Quote:
Winding through the Syndicate region is a natural phenomenon that has baffled scientists for centuries. The phenomenon, a super-dense dark cloud, bends time in such a way that all space-travel in or close to the phenomenon is impossible, or at least extremely hazardous. Most scientists believe that the Cord is the remnant of collision between two black holes millions of years ago that permanently 'scarred' space. Others believe the Cord to be the result of a science experiment, possibly conducted by alien life forms, that went seriously awry eons ago.


Alien life forms!!! This is probably just scientists being facetious but there are a few things in the game that exist that have similar stories that noone can really explain. I love finding this stuff it makes the world feel more alive. I wanna say I have read a chronicle about a planet that was colonized and the colonists died to some sort of local virus and is still today under quarantine.

Not to mention all of the famous fauna like others have mentioned in Slaver Hounds and Furriers and Fedos.

Eve Online's humans don't have much for humanity if that makes sense. We get to watch from a capsuleer point of view as they (and we) overpopulate, overuse, and destroy all the natural resources and environment of New Eden and Anoikis

@lunettelulu7

Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#11 - 2017-02-08 20:55:14 UTC
We already have illegal aliens (Minmatar).

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#12 - 2017-02-08 21:06:54 UTC
I don't like this idea, and it's in the wrong subforum.

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LouHodo
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#13 - 2017-02-08 21:10:58 UTC
Some of the best games I have ever played avoided the "Human v Alien" story. They kept with the tried and true, struggle of human nature. How we are a better story than any fiction writer can dream of.

Think about it with todays events.

A mega billionaire 1%er becomes president of the most powerful nation, but the victory wasn't clean or flawless. With rumors abound of voter fraud and external sway from a rival nation being investigated. This man must overcome massive hurdles to either succeed in swaying the popular opinion and prevent the oncoming revolution or show a different side and become the villain that everyone fears he is...... Only time will tell.

Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#14 - 2017-02-08 21:20:11 UTC
LouHodo wrote:
Some of the best games I have ever played avoided the "Human v Alien" story. They kept with the tried and true, struggle of human nature. How we are a better story than any fiction writer can dream of.

Think about it with todays events.

A mega billionaire 1%er becomes president of the most powerful nation, but the victory wasn't clean or flawless. With rumors abound of voter fraud and external sway from a rival nation being investigated. This man must overcome massive hurdles to either succeed in swaying the popular opinion and prevent the oncoming revolution or show a different side and become the villain that everyone fears he is...... Only time will tell.



Straight

Maybe a better analogy is with Star Trek. Every series explores humanity in it's own way through it's character interaction and development

Spock - Kirk - McCoy
Data - Picard (friendship between LaForge and Data)
Seven - Tuvok - Neelix (also like the great debates between Seven and Janeway.)
Archer - T'Pol - Tucker
Deep Space Nine

I think a good rule for CCP for it's customers is Rule of Acquisition #39 "Don't tell customers more than they need to know."

@lunettelulu7

Menamanama
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2017-02-08 21:33:13 UTC
Illegal aliens.
Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2017-02-08 21:35:16 UTC
I think that the Gallente have plenty of aliens to deal with unlike the Amarrians
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#17 - 2017-02-08 21:39:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Terry Dax wrote:
Neuntausend wrote:
The Jove are human, the drones are not lifeforms (although quite alien in the original sense of the word). We have no idea what the sleepers are - might also be human or non-lifeform leftovers of an earlier human culture, and the seekers are basically sleepers. So, yeah. No aliens here, but Fedos.


Sleepers are survivors of the second Jove empire that decided to live in virtual reality paradises. The seekers are a little unclear, but appear to be related to a rogue artificial superintelligence created by the sleepers (accidentally or on purpose). All sentient life in EVE is either human or a product of humans. No aliens.


Yeah indeed - seems to be a common one with sleepers people just accept the NPCs as the sleepers but they are just AI left by the sleepers to guard their left over facilities, etc.

I dunno if it was ever completed and how much is in the game but there is actually quite a deep secret (involving several different w-space sites) with the sleepers that ends with The Mirror but I'm not sure if people (including myself) just haven't figured it out or if its not actually fully functional in game and no one from CCP seems to want to divulge.

Most people just dip their toes in w-space and/or live there plundering it effectively but there was intended to be more to it than that.
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#18 - 2017-02-08 21:41:03 UTC
Well, technically we are the aliens. We are not front New Eden. However, we do know alien life does exist in EVE. Long limb something and Fedo's are indeed alien creatures. Look at the number of planets in New Eden. There are probably creatures we would call alien there. But for things like Reptilian creatures and Greys, no. The Jove are close enough as they've lost most of their humanity to augmentation.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#19 - 2017-02-08 21:43:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
I don't personally think a human-like species, either native to New Eden, or alien like us, is necessary at all.

Capsuleer technology must be intimately tied into our human physiology.Virtually every system of our body is converted into technology as part of the process of becoming a capsuleer. Even now, the technology mostly fails and it is less than 10% of people that enroll in the capsuleer program that survive.

I can't imagine, that with tech so early in its development, that we could also have it developed sufficiently to plug into a different physiology. We know it started as Jove tech, so originates from humans and it would seem a bit early to have that technology crossing over to other species.

Of course, EVE is sci-fi, so the developers could easily write a human-like species into the game with capsuleer technology if they wanted, but CCP has always been cautious to maintain EVE as a sort of possible future of the human race in a way. In that respect, another species like us would break that immensely.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#20 - 2017-02-08 22:15:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Now you want aliens, but then you will build walls in space faster than you could say: "make mankind great again".
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