Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm against putting a timer on for the selfish reason of I like to steal these bubbles and use them myself. Honestly an unmanned bubble is not hard to kill off and simply having it provide a killmail will be all the incentive required for people to blap it.

Ready for some really radical Ideas?

In a world of Interdiction, there needs to be nullification, otherwise there will be no counter to them. The two are intertwined, elsewise you'll end up with only having giant bubble laden slugfests in null. or citadels with a hundred bubbles around them keeping anyone from attacking during repair timers etc. If there is no way to counter it, people will find every way to abuse it.

That being said, I'd say the arguments for and against nullification and interdiction boil down to a frustration. Either you're frustrated you can't kill them, or you're frustrated they can kill you. it seems most people argue against the side they aren't on. Here's some proposals:

Combat ships:
Interceptors- I'd agree with the idea of a tackle inty that is nullified and a combat inty that isn't but stronger in combat. Yes there should be travel ceptors, you can smartbomb them if you really don't like them, or maybe a hictor can script to stop nullfied warping around him. I think that's a good idea.

T3s- Not really my area of expertise but I feel the ships are sluggish enough when taking gates that unless covops fit you could take them there, if covops fit they serve a great role of hunters and killers or scouts or hackers

Hictors/Dictors- These ships are the bane of many ships in the game, adding interceptors and nullified T3s to this list with specialized equipment may be a good or bad thing, but its a good idea

Non-Combat
I really don't think it needs to be on many noncombat ships in fact I'd like specifically to talk about the Blockade Runner. I think the ship should double down on its blockade running abilities (to not be completely overshadowed by Jump Freighters) but i don't think that should be done with nullification, instead I propose allowing BRs to run prop mods (or maybe just afterburners) while cloaked as a way to outrun the blockades. I think it'd make for a more engaging gameplay but still advantage the BR

Anchorables
This is what I'd really like to talk about here. Many people are complaining about anchorable bubbles and want them to "decay." I'd like to see an awesome new system of anchorable bubbles rather than "I hate you guys who just put up blockades you make it not easy for free miner kills." I think blockading should be more meaningful and purposeful and also more intractable between both attackers and defenders. I propose 3 different types of deployables to replace the current ones which seem to be more skill and price point locked than anything (why use anything other than smalls and Large tech IIs?) Based on what i see the common uses for deployable bubbles to be:

-Small deployable for gate camps.
Works very much like current Bubbles small medium bubbles, but has a one hour expiration timer (visible to the deployer so he knows when to save it) Designed to be dropped by a group of destoyers or campers to form gate/pipe camps (could come in Tech II flavors that stop cloaks or nullification if need be)

-Large Blockade Units.
These would be in place on the current uses for large T2 bubbles namely blockading away systems. Instead of bubblefucking a gate with 5-40 bubbles, you could deploy one of these on a gate (it only anchors when within so much of a gate and attaches to it) and it provides a large bubble around the gate (maybe 40-100km of the gate). Once deployed it takes an takes an anchor time then can be turned on to blockade away a gate. This object doesn't decay but instead consumes some sort of fuel (probably an ice product, LO or Stront or Heavy water or something) to stay up and running with its bubble. The defender needs to fuel it to keep it up and running, and the owners can turn it on and off at will (probably a 10 min timer between switching it again). For attackers you can ingore and burn through it, or you can shoot it. If you deal damage to it (probably about the same HP as a single Large bubble) you knock down its shields, the bubble turns off and the Blockade unit enters a reinforcement period for about 10-15 mins. The attackers than then continue on or they can wait around/come back and the Blockade unit starts a repair cycle (which could be sped up by entosising it or repping it or something) in which the attackers can shoot it again to destroy it permanently. The point of this being you can establish and take away system control through blockades (you can even blockade others into their own systems if you want)

-There should probably be a medium sized deployable to anchor on structures/undocks if there is still a need for the hellcamping tactic to be accomplishable in eve in an offensive role. I think this can be solved with a smaller tempory version of the blockade unit which can be attached to enemy structures. But citadels have too many teeth and they'd just kill it unless it was not targetable by citadels. Food for thought at least

All that being said I think alot of the real problem cases with the mechanics are mostly edge case scenarios and instead of putting the blame on what can be a fun and engaging game of using interdiction (and conversely countering with the limited selection of nullified ships) creatively and purposefully.

Thanks for listening to my ideas, and my thoughts

Tl:dr Most of the mechanics are fine but some QoL and elimination of edge cases should happen. Also I have an idea for a cool new deployable to replace hellbubbled gates with an engaging gameplay for both sides

Confirming that this is a thing. I do it more for the pissed-off reactions, suspect-baiting, and occasional loot drops than the killmails, but the killmails certainly don't hurt my motivation.

We don´t need extra nullified ships!!!

So pls do not even think about bringing more in!!!

T3 should get a greater punishment for using the subsystem!


Fuel for bubbles might be an idea but than again ...NO! .... they are working fine like they are so why changing em?

Bubble hell gates are in game for a long time now and before there wasen´t even one ship immune to the effect!

Yacht is a pain in the ass! I set Fozzi -10 when this came into game ....(from -5 for inties!)...

I agree with Predator Ace. On my think its very bad idea to delete nullified coops ships. I am (probably same like Predator Ace), are solo null-sec player, and t3 covert nullified tengu give me a chance to live in null-sec in solo, without any corporation. If you delete those ships, you will kill solo life in null-sec.

I see problem not with some ships being immune to bubbles and related, but rather insta align ships. Struggling against server tick, and not against another player is broken game play. .

In addition, its time to end the align -cloak-microwarp trick.

Rubbish, you will get along just fine. The only change would be that it would be possible to catch you but still hard to do.

Dracvlad, I agree with you. All this situation looks like big nullsec alliances try to prove that covops nullified t3s and other nullified ships should be removed from the game. Because nullified covops ships are pain in ass for big nullsec aliances, and thay actually feel pain when small t3 groups of players or solo players go throught their space, and for example PL`s cant catch those nullified ships. So big nullsec alliances think like "Hey, why dont to implement someone to CSM, or implement idea, to remove thise nullified ships from the game ? No-nullified ships --> no pain for big nullsec alliances ---> big alliances absolutly dominate in nullsec---> solo life/small groups of players life die in null sec"
Also, yes, i think blockade runners need to be nullified.

Love your idea!

The number 1 reason i see that EvE has continued to be a top notch game for ALL playstyles across the gamer universe, is this...

for every action there is a equal and possible counter measure.

that being said, nullification currently lacks a counter, and so do un-manned bubbles (if you eliminated nullified incterceptors... which needs to happen).

For unmanned bubbles, going to a timer seems to be the obvious fit. T3 cruisers with nullification is not horrible, insta lock, dead. For nullified interceptors , currently, there is little to nothing you can do short of setting up your computer with gold lined connections outside the building where ccp's servers are so you can get the perfect tick timer... much like some crooks on wallstreet and jita try make .001 isk on the fractions of information exchange rates.

Interceptors are BROKEN. PERIOD.

there needs to be a counter. be it a script in a heavy dictor buble or whatever. .

having a ship impossible to catch unless you have near perfect internet connection on a good day, while its laggy as hell for this guy running around un-catchable needs a counter, simple as that.

make bubbles timers, but make insta warp frigates lockable and killable ... its what 1-2 month training for an interceptor. should be simple skill chain to catch them, but something not common, and dedicated to catching them.


for anyone that says that breaks the game, and then i cant tackle things... you arent trying hard enough or skilled enough...

i have ran through bubbles in blockade runners that should have died to 20 man gate camps , only to set-up in their territory more times than i have ever been caught doing it..

Easy "i win" buttons, do not become the eve i have come to respect over the years.