Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Can you explain, what prevents you from shooting them "without a player presence"? They shall be more expensive, thats all.

I find the mechanics of Bubbles and interdiction nullification totally fine. When you are not manning the bubbles, they hardly cause issues. When someone has a nullified ship you need an instant lock and possibly de-cloaking move but it is far from impossible to do. Perhaps a 24 hour activation time is not a bad idea. Keeping bubbles up for more than 24 hours can cause travel issues that don't necessarily contribute to the game but on the other hand, finding someone else's bubble and shooting it or using it for your own means is something people including myself do on occasion.

Module yes. BS class with BS fitting reqs for utility high slot. Intense cap usage to limit activation numbers concurrently. Sunesis gets a role or ship bonus for fitting and slight cap reduction.

Module acts as a limited usage interdiction nullification that uses large amounts of cap. Downside to the module is it does NOT stop DIC or HIC bubbles from working as a direct player driven active counter.


Bubbles degrade over time. Shields, then armor and then structure goes pop after anywhere between 6-12 hours for smallest to largest. Can be manually repped if one so wishes to increase time on station.


Nullification of yachts and other ships are fine minus inties.

Only one of the inties should have nullification. Im undecided on which though the point range class or the dps one though I am leaning more to the point range inty should have the nullification.

T3s have been nerfed a lot in the last few years and people still scream about them but the drawbacks are enough to keep these nullified. A slight tweak to the align time for the nullified/cloaky sub combo might work best here but isnt a huge deal imo.

Another thing to look at is to make DIC/HIC pilots great again by changing what ships can counter direct or indirect bubbles. Aka players atk or afk gameplay.

I know it's extremely niche and I'm one of only two individuals that use one, but I've had my gas havesting tengu for over 5 years and the nullifier subsystem has allowed me to escape countless ganks and camps within wh space.

With that said, huge ehp, warp stabs and nullification is just plain unfair. It will be a said day but I do look forward to retiring this un-catchable isk printing machine that apparently never caught on. (Depsite my best efforts to push it on my corp mates, aka the other individual who has also never been caught).

For a bit of context, I like to have slave implants, but getting podded sucks. Thus a nullified gas havester is awesome. Although with citadels, this point has become moot.

Should you be able to have nullified combat ships? Why, or why not?

This appears to be something extremely hard to balance from reading the comments and thinking about on my own.

1) I like interceptors as they are. I hear a lot of people complaining about them and how annoying they are. I have been on the receiving end of interceptor gangs. While it is annoying seeing a killmail so easily slip through my fingers, I believe removing the nullification from them would make them pretty ****.

They wouldn't be 'Intercepting' anything better than a T1 frigate would without that nullification. Here's a complete stretch and please disregard because I might have a mental disability... But if you take away their nullification you need to add something else to make them slippery that can be countered still. Perhaps add 2 points of warp stability and make them immune to non-heavy webs(aka the webs on BCs/BSs). This would make them slippery but still catch-able if you really put your mind to it.

2) Modules for every ship could be interesting but I imagine it would be really hard to balance so its not either **** or OP.

3) I wouldn't mind seeing reworked ships or new classes of ships specifically balanced with nullification in mind.

4) I'm currently a poor so I don't fly TC3s but they seem to be good at everything. Is this good or bad? I don't have an opinion right now, but everyone else does.

How about non-combat ships? Shuttles? Blockade runners? Yachts?

1) Tech 2 shuttles with nullification could definitely be a thing in my book.

2) I think the transports should have their roles reworked and nullification fit onto one of them. People complain that they would be ALMOST uncatchable, but is that really a big problem? A JF is ALMOST uncatchable too if you aren't an idiot about it.

I think having faster and safer means for an individual or a small group to get supplies into/around nullsec would be a great thing. There have been multiple times when I wish I could have safely transported a moderate amount of stuff into Null without waiting for a JF pilot.

Luckily I do have access to one, but what about those who may not? This doesn't really take much away from the current way things are done. If anything this creates more content. People will still be idiots and get caught. People who used to use JF services might take the risk and create a nice loot pinata for a gate camp. There have been times where I won't fly for a night or two because I can't get the modules I want for a particular ship that I like to fly.

Perchance, maybe I or a small group just want to set out on my/their own somewhere? It is nearly impossible to do since I don't have a JF at my personal disposal. Before you complain about "Wheres the danger and risk?" please stop. People are generally moving stuff with the intention of get it blown up. If they can't get it out there safely to ultimately get it blown up, more than likely they aren't even going to try at all. Letting the stuff get to the destination before it blows up tends to lead to content that is more fun. I know EVE is all about stomping on people's fun before they can even have it, but I think that just discourages engaging content for everyone.

3) I don't really have an opinion on yachts. I should probably utilize them, but I don't.

Should anchorable bubbles exist? Should they decay if they exist?

They should exist, but should decay and create killmails 100%



EDIT: Some people have mentioned how Blockade Runners aren't really Blockade Runners... Funny story, I started training towards Transport Ships on my alt because I thought at least one of them would be nullified because of the name Blockade Runner. This is clearly my own fault for not actually looking at them, but honestly they should just be renamed if they aren't going to get nullification. Switching the names and making the DST stealthy and the Blockade Runner nullified as suggested makes a lot more sense.

Nobody will catch these things, they have a sub 3 second align time while moving.

Bubbles should exist but there should be a decay and gate rats should treat them as hostile and shoot them.

My thoughts on the matter:

Having some nullified combat ships isn't bad, but instead of nullified interceptors I think it would be more interesting to give this ability to cov-ops, recons, black ops and of course T3s. All those ships are meant to be stealthy and some of them are good at combat.

Likewise, some non-combat ships, like blockade runners, should get it, but not all of them. Shuttles are so cheap it doesn't make sense except for super-special non-cheap shuttles.

Anchorable bubbles are a good thing, I'd just like two changes:

-Make all of them larger, so more people will use the small ones
-Let them decay after two days, like a mobile depot

Otherwise, bubbles are good.

Should you be able to have nullified combat ships? Why, or why not?
-Yes, you should have combat nullified ships, to have a chance to make solo-pvp at null-sec. Cuz, if there will not be nulllified combat ships (like crow, any other interceptors, or t3`s). Alliance who live in null-sec will totally dominate there, wich is not good.

How about non-combat ships? Shuttles? Blockade runners? Yachts?
-Yes you should have a nullified non-combat ships, cuz you will be able to do some stuff solo in null-sec.

Should anchorable bubbles exist? Should they decay if they exist?
-Yes, they should exist ! Cuz there is only one good way to do some good defens on home system gates (in null-sec).
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So, in general, nullified combat and non-combat ships should exist(nullified t`3s and other), cuz if they will not exist, solo-pvp will absolutly die in null-sec, and big alliances will dominate in null sec, cuz solo players cant actually do anything in null without nullified ships.

I don't know if the mechanics should be changed or how, but I would like to see the current dynamic between knowledge and work with survivability preserved. For example, if you take the time to set up and use gate tacs and unaligned safes, you'll dramatically increase your ability to move around safely. Warping gate to gate, on the other hand, increases your chances of landing yourself in a bad situation. Thus, it seems to me that knowledge, work, and patience increases survivability, while ignorance, laziness, and impatience decreases it. No matter how these mechanics are changed, I would like to see that principle preserved as much as possible.