EVE New Citizens Q&A

What's a killboard?

My last post was in jest of course.

I fully accept the PvP aspect of this game and in fact enjoy the thrill of constant vigilance. I'm personally not involved, I enjoy being an industrialist. However, it's simply New Eden reality, and I'd argue it's the charm of this game above other, controlled PvP environments like WoW.

There is nothing like mining Veldspar in 1.0 sec space yet still being afraid for you life. Truly. I post this not in jest or sarcasm.

Someday I may work up the courage to try my hand, but for now industrialization is my draw, and that's another aspect of this game I enjoy: one can do as one wishes, and there's no one to order you otherwise.

It's the perfect libertarian environment.

You raise a good point here (about the thrill of low/nullsec). Indeed, such activity may soon be in my future.

I'm afraid however, that if the "jerk-parade" were limited in any way, then New Eden would become, as I've seen another post (not on this thread) just WoW in space.

There are jerks in real life too. Think of it as a good lesson for real life, and how to best deal with jerks anywhere.

Eve does not care.

THIS ^^

What Tarjhana Skyweir said. Really, EVE has an underlying dark energy, it's all geared and game mechanics support, the abuse and degradation of human creations. This game could be so much more if the same level or loyalty (to garbabe people) was given to those who want to create something amazing that does not involve bullying.

Really, not a single compelling reason? People have written reams and reams on how a safe zone is not compatible with a single-universe/single-economy full-time PvP sandbox game like Eve Online. Over the long history of these forums, it is one of, if not the most discussed topics and there are pages and pages of people providing reasons why the game is designed and implemented the way it is. I won't repeat the well-reasoned case for why highsec cannot be safe here since it is clear you want to complain rather than really try to understand the basic game design CCP used for Eve Online, but instead will make the alternative point:

Eve Online is the way most of us want it to be, including most importantly, the developers.

To paraphrase you, no one is forced to stay here if they don't want to. Eve Online is a cut-throat, single universe Battle Royale where we are all competing against each other for resources and power, and if you don't want to play that game, you should just go away. It is incredibly self-centered of you to tell the rest of us the game we love should be changed or even watered-down to suit your personal tastes or to be more like whatever it is you think you are looking for in a game. You don't walk into a casino and sit down at a poker table and announce to everyone that you don't like losing money or having another person's hand beat yours so instead of poker everyone should be playing Go Fish with you.

If you don't want to play Eve then don't. If you don't want to play by the rules CCP has created for the game, or don't like the Golden Rules in the OP of this thread, then just uninstall and go find something you do like. Players like you have been moaning for more safety, or even a complete safe space, since the servers went online and CCP has not decided to make a safe space for the whiners and to stay true to their original vision of the game. New Eden was always a 'nowhere is safe' dystopia where you are always in competition and at risk to the other players, and it always will be. CCP isn't going to change that now, so far into the life cycle of the game. Your choice is simple: HTFU or GTFO. Eve isn't going to change for you, she is who she is and the majority of us like her that way.

Don't they? If I am at a party and some dude I just met has his race car-driving gorilla ram me off the road, or some girl decides to break our alliance and invade Kamchatka after leading me to believe she was my ally, I don't call them psychopaths or mentally ill (or assume this is how they act in their real life). They are both playing the game as it was designed to be played.

Yes, Eve is more of a sandbox game with less defined goals, and also probably considered by some as a role-playing game given the intricate backstory and way your customize and control your character (although in my experience, most players play Eve as a strategic or tactical ship combat simulator or economic simulator, rather than an RPG, especially given the prevalence of alts) but like those other games, it is a virtual, imaginary universe where no consequences spill over into the real world. It is a game. If you cannot separate your reality from the wonderful, but fictitious, virtual reality that CCP has created, then you probably need to step back from Eve for a bit.

Many studies have been done on people who play pen-and-paper RPGs in the last decades (and people who play video games) and never consistently found any correlation with mental illness or negative anti-social behaviours. Humans are more than capable of assuming a dark role in a game, or as an actor or story teller, and not become evil in real life. It is my experience that most ruthless space pirates and space thieves are perfectly well-adjusted and pleasant people in real life.

Eve is about conflict and competition in a dystopian future universe. While some of the characters in New Eden are monsters, you shouldn't think the person behind that character is one for defeating you in a pretend game or for just playing in that competitive universe by the agreed rules.

I agree. Players who call another human being names or hurl vile insults at them after they lose an imaginary spaceship in a video game about building and losing spaceships are probably not very nice people in real life as well.

However, I think you need to re-read the Golden Rules in the OP again. Having someone attack your industrial/exploration/ratting ship or your space station is being "a jerk" as much as when another player takes your pawn, or bankrupts you when you land on Boardwalk is being "a jerk". Competing with other players for power and resources in a dangerous universe is the core idea of this PvP sandbox game.

For some yea, but also many are meek in life and act out when they are anonymous.

On the contrary, the CCP dev who started this thread is telling you how it is, and how it has always been.

Eve is a niche game, it was purposefully designed not to be WoW in space

The poorly socialised types tend to be the people who wish real life misfortune on those that explode their imaginary spaceships; conversely most of the people I've met that happily explode other people's internet spaceships seem to be well adjusted social animals that can tell where Eve stops and the real world begins.