EVE General Discussion

Stop insulting our intelligence, and GTFO.

No sympathy for your ilk, you nulltard walking disease.

**** off!

I amuses me about how players throw around the world balance define things as broken when they don't like it.

Just like how evil is defined, because people don't agree on it. It is all subjective.

Balance? Who defines balanced, and balanced for whom. It is only "balanced" for that person when it benefits them.

So what if supers are nerfed and removed from the game? The game will change to favor capitals, nerf that then it will favor whatever comes next. Balance cannot be defined in this game. If you want balanced go play starcraft.

Who are you the say what is balanced and what is not? I bet those who are whining have never flown a supercap therefore they cannot claim what should be done to supercaps.

So what if everything gets nerfed, does that change anything? The answer is no, Nullsec Alliances has the skills, resources, and the numbers to achieve what they want. And there is Nothing you can do about it. What you can do they can do a thousand times more.

Super Capitals were created in players responses to how broken capitals were. Now I wonder what will come next since people are saying how broken supers are.

You are just simply jealous of the success of super capital pilots, you simply just want everything handed down to you on a platter rather than working for it.

Weakness breeds more Weakness, which this games needs less off.

You don't get it do you? it is a cold harsh universe. Now also available for super pilots.

The biggest problem that EVE currently has is that blobs of subcaps generally can be killed only if you have a bigger blob of subcaps. The only option left to beat a bigger blob with a smaller blob is to use super caps. If they nerf super caps even more subcap blobs will become unstoppable. All you would need to win battles is a massive blob of one year old subcap pilots. Basically that would mean that after playing this game for one year you could stop playing it because there are no goals left to play for.

There seem to be two groups of players. The first group is not interested to invest a reasonable amount of time into getting the ships that they fly. They want to log in to the game, have fun for 30 minutes and log out again. They don’t like planning ahead for more than a week. There is a considerable high risk that they won’t stay with EVE for several years.

The second group of players clearly likes to invest a reasonable amount of time into the game. They like to build up something. They actually want to feel a risk of losing the ship that they are flying. They want reasonable goals that keep them busy for years. They will stay with EVE for years.

It’s not possible to make all of EVE perfect for both groups at the same time. Hence I think CCP should optimize low sec and npc null sec for the first group and the rest of null sec for the second group. On the one hand it would no longer be possible to use super caps in low sec and npc null sec (only traveling through would be possible). On the other hand CCP should implement a whole set of new super capitals that will provide mainly more variety. In normal null sec it would be mandatory to use super caps. However, a super cap fleet would always need a subcap support fleet. A perfect set up subcap / super cap mixed fleet would be able to kill a pure subcap fleet that has 5 times more members.

Additionally CCP should heavily increase the focus on the rock-paper-scissors principle for all areas of the game. There should never be a cookie cutter fleet setup that beats everything else. Every optimal fleet should have at least 10 different ship types.

. PvP is broken as it is based on rock/paper/scissors rather than player skill, that doesn't make it a game, more an interactive movie where you pick out some icons then watch what happens when you attack an enemy

. Mining is broken because we've been priced out of the market by salvagers who get bigger rewards for what they do

. Incursions are broken because they are too rewarding ( apparently, don't do them myself )

. Exploration is interesting but there needs to be much more of it to compensate for the amount of players, I think this is the most interesting part of the game of all it's the only feature I've seen CCP introduce that worked on release properly

. Missions have become fairly useless as well, either they're too repetitive to play through for a long period of time because of how there are only a small number of them per faction or because they don't give very good rewards until late game

. Sound has been broken in EVE for years and CCP has never bothered to fix it

. WIS needs to be implemented properly

. ISK is a broken and inflationary currency that needs to be changed

. The Nex Store needs to die and any trace of data regarding it should be eradicated and burned with fire

What's your point exactly? You think you're somehow special and in need of attention if you're wanting to take 0.0 space? You think there aren't other problems in the game except for the parts you play? Try checking out other stuff for once.

have some details here? which alternatives have supers? and where are they "overused"?

Because of technological limitations EVE is not and will never be a game that is about piloting skills / the ability to physically respond fast. That’s what FPSs are for.

For EVE you need strategic skills in general, some sort of social skills if you want to be the leader of an alliance and a readiness of mind for being a good FC.

If there were technological limitations for making a game like EVE fun, then it should never have been attempted in the first place until they fixed the technological limitations, it's like saying if Skyrim hadn't been released now with all it's bugs, glitches and exploits we'd have been waiting for it to release in 2015.

I would rather they work on the game for a long time and bring it out as good as it possibly can be rather than rush out what is essentially an alpha version of the game they intended, we saw the list of things they wanted to put in on the old forums, the game we are playing now is clearly not something they wanted and we're all paying time and money for it.

I don't mind bugs and stuff all that much, since if there is a work around I'll find it, but when we're being used paying them money to be testers it pisses me off.

CCP didnt want those supercaps/subs anyways....

Lets see:

Subs $15/month or $180/year.
Supercap (I'm guess here on what I've seen discussed for costs) ~$900
Supercap pilot: No idea what the skill point requirement is but we'll assume for argument $450

Now, if you were CCP which would you rather have? $180 or $1,350?

So, now it's just a matter for CCP to create the next end all weapons platform that picks up where the SC was nerfed.