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porpoise? how about a command mining destroyer...for mining frigates
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Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#21 - 2016-09-19 08:59:12 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Yeah because a ship that can do everything just not technically all at once is a concept that has worked well for eve so far....

Sounds like pretty much every ship in Eve, High DPS/High Tank/Utility, pick 2.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#22 - 2016-09-19 09:16:54 UTC
not every ship in eve can fill all the roles of a fleet.

when this ship mines hauls and boosts it is now able to man all the need positions in a mining fleet. only other ships like that are our T3 friends

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#23 - 2016-09-19 11:08:56 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
not every ship in eve can fill all the roles of a fleet.

when this ship mines hauls and boosts it is now able to man all the need positions in a mining fleet. only other ships like that are our T3 friends

I doubt that 15k ore hold is making it Haul, that's just enough for itself, not hauling.

Frigate
Venture 5k ore hold
Prospect 10k ore hold
Endurance 15k ore hold

Barges
Procurer 12k ore hold
Retriever 22k ore hold (increased by skills)
Covetor 7k ore hold

Exhumers
Skiff 15k ore hold
Mackinaw 28k ore hold (increased by skills)
Hulk 8.5k ore hold

It's Equal to the Largest Frigate and smaller than most of the other Barges/Exhumers, Although anywhere between 7k and 15k ore hold I think would be about right for mining itself.

And Actual Hauler
Miasmos 42k Ore Hold (increased by skills)
Lugh Crow-Slave
#24 - 2016-09-19 11:21:42 UTC
but we are talking about something to be used for frig holes. so it would be the largest hauler along with the endurance that can fill that role. while boosting and mining

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#25 - 2016-09-19 11:54:15 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
but we are talking about something to be used for frig holes. so it would be the largest hauler along with the endurance that can fill that role. while boosting and mining

I thought that we were just talking about ninja mining in general, not specifically Frigate WHs
Lugh Crow-Slave
#26 - 2016-09-19 11:58:31 UTC
good point getting threads mixed up however it is for ninja mining and its still got the best ore hold for that. the OP literaly wants this thing to do every job it can when it comes to ninja mining.


this is like if i said i wanted a ship that could do RR cloak EWAR and had decent DPS

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#27 - 2016-10-05 23:28:45 UTC
Mole Guy wrote:
with the porpoise coming, an alliance mate brought up the idea of a command destroyer for mining.
unless the porpoise IS a dezzy? then this post is null and void.
if not, then here is an idea:

to go along with the endurance and the prospect, it would be awesome to have a command dezzy from ORE that cloaks and mines. it might not get cov ops cloak, no worries...but just to have the same setup as the endurance would be awesome.

it would allow ninja mining in enemy territory and wh. gas sites, ice, ore..doesnt need a bonus, just the ability to fit any of these miners and use a single link like the new command dezzies.

let it have a much larger hold since its dezzy sized. same bonuses as normal command dezzies.
or give it a small bonus to gas and or ice/ore, whatever. it would just have more high slots for a link, cloak and a few gas harvestors or miners.

i know it wont make nov patch, just wanting to put a bug in your ear about it.




I would have to say that a TIII Dessie hull would be perfect for a mining command destroyer.
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#28 - 2016-10-06 03:22:00 UTC
From https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/mining-foreman-revolution/

Quote:
Thanks to ORE’s tireless work advancing hull materials technology to reduce mass, the Porpoise is light enough to travel through small-ship wormhole connections.


Very Large Ore Hold too

Quote:

Porpoise:

Industrial Command Ships bonuses (per skill level):

5% bonus to ship cargo capacity and ore hold
2% bonus to Mining Foreman Burst Strength and Duration
10% bonus to drone hitpoints, damage and mining yield
-10% reduction in drone ice harvesting cycle time

Role bonus:

50% bonus to drone mining yield
400% bonus to Remote Shield Booster optimal range
90% reduction in powergrid requirements for Mining Foreman Burst modules
90% reduction to effective distance traveled for jump fatigue
Can fit two Command Burst modules
100% bonus to Tractor Beam range
50% bonus to Tractor Beam velocity
300% bonus to Survey Scanner range

Slot layout: 4H, 4M, 2L

Fittings: 420 PWG, 350 CPU

Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 6000 / 3000 / 8000

Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 20 / 40 / 50

Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 50 / 35 / 35 / 10

Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 3500 / 875s / 4

Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 100 / 1.5 / 4,500,000 / 9.36s

Warp Speed: 2.7 au/s

Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 125

Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 50km / 90 / 5

Sensor strength: 20 Magnetometric

Signature radius: 300

Cargo Hold: 500 m3

Ore Hold: 50,000 m3

Fleet Hangar: 5,000 m3

Cost: ~50-60 mil ISK

Max Mining Yield: ~980 m3 per minute + drone travel time

Max DPS: ~400 dps
SurrenderMonkey
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2016-10-06 05:46:06 UTC
Mole Guy wrote:
with the porpoise coming, an alliance mate brought up the idea of a command destroyer for mining.
unless the porpoise IS a dezzy? then this post is null and void.
if not, then here is an idea:

to go along with the endurance and the prospect, it would be awesome to have a command dezzy from ORE that cloaks and mines. it might not get cov ops cloak, no worries...but just to have the same setup as the endurance would be awesome.

it would allow ninja mining in enemy territory and wh. gas sites, ice, ore..doesnt need a bonus, just the ability to fit any of these miners and use a single link like the new command dezzies.

let it have a much larger hold since its dezzy sized. same bonuses as normal command dezzies.
or give it a small bonus to gas and or ice/ore, whatever. it would just have more high slots for a link, cloak and a few gas harvestors or miners.

i know it wont make nov patch, just wanting to put a bug in your ear about it.


The ship you're looking for is called the Porpoise.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Mole Guy
Bob's Bait and Tackle
High Bear Nation.
#30 - 2016-10-06 06:18:45 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Mole Guy wrote:
with the porpoise coming, an alliance mate brought up the idea of a command destroyer for mining.
unless the porpoise IS a dezzy? then this post is null and void.
if not, then here is an idea:

to go along with the endurance and the prospect, it would be awesome to have a command dezzy from ORE that cloaks and mines. it might not get cov ops cloak, no worries...but just to have the same setup as the endurance would be awesome.

it would allow ninja mining in enemy territory and wh. gas sites, ice, ore..doesnt need a bonus, just the ability to fit any of these miners and use a single link like the new command dezzies.

let it have a much larger hold since its dezzy sized. same bonuses as normal command dezzies.
or give it a small bonus to gas and or ice/ore, whatever. it would just have more high slots for a link, cloak and a few gas harvestors or miners.

i know it wont make nov patch, just wanting to put a bug in your ear about it.


The ship you're looking for is called the Porpoise.

notice i posted this BEFORE the stats on the porpoise came out?
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