EVE General Discussion

Sorry that wasn't intentional. That sort of cosmetic change is pretty low priority at the moment as it would require a large amount of our artists time. We're more focused on working out what the compelling vision and gameplay for Incarna in general should be so our art support is minimal.

Don't mind him he's just an over eager forum posting try-hard who hasn't gotten enough attention yet today. Hi Doc Fury your ideas about how the mods should do their job are both edgy and insightful. Now go run along, it's almost the top of the hour and new cartoons are coming on.

Your fascination and fixation on my posting is quite telling, but by all means don't let me make you miss your cartoons.

Don't use big words you don't understand, also echoing my suggestion to you is lazy and stupid.

I've made tons of suggestions for WiS (more like walking on planets), that require a heavy mix of Incarna and PI. These ideas could easily be applied (introduced) to stations until PI and Dust do the merger thing and Incarna catches up. It might not be a bad place to start tbh.

Please note, the WiS parts of the idea is under the "Social PI" sections.

The F&I discussion topic is found here

The Assembly Hall proposal (with a more detailed version of this idea, in pdf format) is located here




I believe a good starting point would be to make the existing station services, item hangers (corporate and alliance) and ship hangers (player and corporate), explorable.

From there, we could add station slots, manufacturing lines, research lines, new buildings like bars, nex stores etc, building on the ideas listed in my Social PI concepts and slowly introducing WiS with actual game content and depth that would keep allot of space barbie advocates satisfied. I've seen many a suggestion regarding war rooms, corp rooms, market levels, food courts, casinos, lounges, promenades etc around and even lifted some of those ideas for PI based social PI that players would hopefully be able to explore someday in the not so distant future.

Once we have a functional Station side implementation of WiS going, we could just slowly start applying that to PI networks.

Maybe even Capital ships. Hallways, bridges, hangers, armories, CQs on your ships etc.

Im Hoping WIS is put on a list of 10,000 items and it is 10,001.

In it's current incarnation it should just be removed from game.

There is no need requirement or benafit for either the player base or CCP.

The whole project was and still is a massive waste of time and money and causes more players to leave the game than anything else ever introduced.

only WIS feature i want is away to highly pilots in space that use it so i can troll them for having the same mental capacity as a 4 year old girl.

Sadly, due to the "hide posts" feature, I will no longer get to read any of
your thoughtfull, well worded and constructive posts.

Yeah...so far they tell me that WiS is officially on hold with a 5 man team currently fleshing out ideas for it who are currently also reading through this thread for ideas.

The dev responses are sufficient.

Personally I want to thank Bayesian for taking the time to update us with this informaion. I encourage you to read this threadnaught as well as the many other threads out there with ideas for WiS. I also encourage you to ignore the WiS haters. Thank you very much for your time and all the hard work you are putting into EvE. Please make WiS great and release it when it is ready. Thank you.

Sorry, I thought you meant the continued suggestions were "badgering" My bad.

I don't want to be overly critical of CCP, but It's a bit hard to give ideas when we don't know what you want to do with WiS and what your vision is or even what it's scale is. You could easily make an entire game based solely on WiS with strong ties to the space part, but there propably isn't any point suggesting anything of that scale, if you only see its entire potential as providing a planetery interaction type PvE minigame(s).

After saying that there are a few points that might be of interest to the team developing concepts for station gameplay.

1 - Don't force us to be on site to play minigames, if it isn't absolutely necessary. Having it as an option the creator of the game chooses is fine though. I'm referring to minigames like space poker games in establishments. Forcing people to physically be there would splinter the potential playerbase for those games to too many pieces and it's a huge pain to stop doing everything else just to play a minigame. It might be ok initially regardless, but when the novelty wears off functionality always comes back to center stage.

The point of minigames is often to enrichen and fill the slow parts of your normal gameplay anyway, so it makes sense to give the ability to participate in them without having to stop playing the main game. Instead make a lobby system for minigames where players can search and filter by criteria for available games to join. If such games require an establishment and the corresponding game table to start, you can solve possible immersion issues by creating a hologram of the participants, that sits at the table instead of the actual avatar.

2 - Try to avoid creating more pure kill all/fetch items line of activities in the game. It's the laziest form of PvE gameplay ever made and turns in to a boring grind very quickly. In addition to the stupid AI and lack of any challenge, it's one of the major reasons missioning in EVE is considered as one of the worst PvE activities in any MMO. If you provide PvE activities in WiS, do something different.

3 - You can easily tie potential gameplay to the spaceship part with the exploration spawn system and even create new gameplay for the space part that ties in with it. Basicly this would involve you making the station gameplay more about espionage and information gathering to get access to sites and PvE encounters in space. It would also open a great possiblity to offer new type of exploration, archeology and hacking sites, which aren't combat focused.

Another more interesting possibility is open, if you choose to increase NPC activities in space. There has been some talk about providing new PvE content in a new format. Basicly make world encounters like a NPC hauler traveling a route with escorts to make the world seem more alive while delivering PvE content in a new format. The WiS gameplay and information gathering could tie in with such initiatives in a way, that you could get details on a future hauler schedule(from where to where, escort strength and time of departure). Optionally such an world encounter could also spawn only because someone did a WiS espionage "mission".

Those are just a few general ideas from the top of my head. As said, depending on where you want to go they might be of some interest or totally useless to you. Either way I hope you can come up with some interesting things for us to do, that both fits well to EVE and enrichens the gameplay in space and in stations. What I don't want to see is a copypaste of a feature from another MMO that is juryrigged to EVE or something that has no connection the space part of the game.