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Unless we are both blind, they just deleted your idea and any post quoting it. And seems like they do not even bother to explain why. The fun part is, the last posts relating to the discussion remain without the context. Well played CCP, well played.

This does not appear to be quite so sinister. The long text about what I think would be better approach and why which I submitted on 2nd Sept is still here (posts 1063, 1064 and 1065) as other posts where the merits and dangers of the idea have been discussed.

It just seems like all posts in this thread from early 7th Sept up to about DT have been lost somewhere. In total about 2 pages.

people people this is not your game never has been this is merely a game you play if CCP allow you to if you have negative or contradictory thoughts not in line with CCP its lost in a harmless data purge or in layman's turns a computer error..

No evil ISD or CCP employee would remove posts that I'm certain of, so who's exited that Santa's only 109 sleeps away and 220 till the Easter bunny returns oh boy oh boy

While I am not a dev I can try to answer some of these questions based on how I understand the current game mechanics.

Jump clones should function OK for Omegas that have dropped to Alphas - the skill is needed to install the clone, once created the additional clones are accessible unless you destroy them deliberately. However, the jump timer would be 24h for Alphas as the time reduction skills is not in the current list. Attribute implants would me irrelevant for Omegas that have dropped Alphas for most practical purposes because as it stands currently the Alphas have access to only about 5 mil SP regardless of the amout SP the Omega has - the skills in the list are pretty basic so vast majority of existing subscribes would have them already at levels above what Alpha can access so they would have no skill they could train in Alpha state. Cybernetics III should allow to a full list of implants that need it - in the devblog no additional constraints have been mentioned.

I think I found a way to break it really good:

Lots if Intel Compute Sticks. Those aren't very cheap in large quantities, or very powerful, but they are fully functional x86-64 computers. They can wi-fi, or they might stream over USB. Instead of VM windows, you'd have remote desktop sessions. They should be powerful enough to run a few frames per second, which is enough for mining or watching local.
Because these actually are separate computers, they almost certainly wouldn't trip any current anti-multiboxing measure.

That's funny...

Well, alphas are limited to just hop back to the med clone so JCs are not an option and yes, you are likely intended to loose the +5imps if you try. CCP doesn't want to make it cosy for Omegas to hop back and skill for free on alpha. And IMHO anything limited to the alpha skills should not be running around with +5imps. IMHO working as intended.
The only use for alphas for someone with a Omega clone would be free skilling for another account that will be later plexed cause even a max skilled Alpha is more or less useless for things you need a second account for. They will most likely limit the amount of alphas logged in simultaneously to stop scouting with alpha fleets.

Well - seems like the 2 pages of discussion has been truly lost from this thread without a trace (other than eve search). Lets see if it vanishes again if I repost the summary of it. I will not speculate in these posts if the previous ones going missing were deliberate act or not.

These posts are, in essence a follow up for posts #1063, #1064 and #1065 in the present thread where in a nutshell I was arguing in favor of giving Alphas only access to T1 frigates but without skill caps as opposed to the current plan in the devblog where the access is up to cruiser size T1 hulls with racial lock and significant level caps on accessible skills.

The numbers: - the "75 mil SP ballpark" is a theoretical unrestricted Alpha with every single skill at level 5 that is even remotely relevant to flying a frigate sized hull with T2 fit except cyno, cloak and e-war skills except point. Without racial restriction so all 4 races trained to the max.

In that scenario the SP distribution would be roughly following:
Armor - 4,86 mil SP
Drones - 12,54 mil SP
Electronic Systems - 0,8 mil SP
Engineering - 6,54 mil SP
Gunnery - 9,86 mil SP
Missiles - 7,65 mil SP
Navigation - 4,1 mil SP
Rigging - 7,42 mil SP
Scanning - 7,2 mil SP
Shields - 5,55 mil SP
Spaceship command - 2,8 mil SP
Targeting - 3,8 mil SP

Total - 73,14 mil SP.

Rounded up to 75 mil SP to account some prerequisites and skills not relevant to flying a frigate sized hull, like Science 4, etc. Adding larger hulls, if deemed necessary somewhere down the road would not change the total SP significantly as it is basically the full list that is relevant for flying a subcapital ship. Just throw in medium guns and drones if adding cruisers and thats it.

I'll leave this time aside the arguments about "fairness" (as the philosophical deliberations on the pay-to-win vs free-to-play are already well discussed in the remaining thread) and focus on technical details and problems pointed in the lost two pages of discussion.

(1) Why would anyone subscribe at all if he could use a 75 mil SP Alpha clone? Having max relevant skills for a T1 frigate hull would still leave in place quite significant restrictions on the pilot capabilities and roles he/she can fulfill. There would be basically no access to industry other than very basic capabilities, no access to large number of market orders or contracts and above all even in the "frigate" niche there would be still quite a number of things worthy of subscription - most prominent among these ofc the T2 hulls and cloaks. For mining - barges are still a LOT better than even a max skilled venture could be (approx 500 m3/min vs 1000+ m3/minute for barge). For exploration - T2 hulls are still significantly enough better at probing. That said the Alphas would be still within spitting distance of Omegas by having a possibility of paying the premium for pirate/faction hulls to compete with T2 ships in the frigate specific content.

(2) SP "farming" and extractors. In thew original discussion which was lost there was no solution offered for that point before these two last pages vanished. My solution - if technically feasible - would be to keep track of what amount of SP has been trained in Alpha state for a specific skill and not allow extraction of SP that has been accumulated during free-to-play periods. For example, Alpha clone has trained "Advanced Weapon Upgrades" up to 200 000 SP. Sometime later when in Omega state he has trained the skill up to level 5 but has decided that he does not need that skill after all and wants to cash out the SP invested in that skill. However, when using the extractor on that skill he can drop it as low as 200 000 SP and not an SP more, because that is the amount that has been trained in "free to play" regime. If keeping track of "free" SP on a individual skill basis is technically not feasible a bit simpler solution would be just to keep track of character total SP which has been added wile the clone is in Alpha state and not allow skill extraction to drop the character under that SP level. Another possibility to make it more inconvenient to "farm" SP on alpha accounts would be adding a requirement that any skill in the skill que must start during the next 24h, meaning that one can not just throw in 5 year training plan but has to remember to log in every once in a while to start another skill.

(3) Injectors and Alphas. Current Alphas as proposed can use them and I honestly do not see a problem if the "unrestricted" Alphas could as well. Every time a injector is extracted CCP gets its cut as somewhere, someone, has spent the real money to make that possible. Yes, that would mean that a fresh dude could push his character up to approx 75 mil and play free forever if he is happy with T1 frigate specific content and the restrictions do not bother him. I am not particularly worried about the servers capability to take the load, to be honest. EVE is huge and we are quite far from the record numbers we have seen in the past simultaneously logged in. That kind of pilots would be minority - probably most of them would be anyway high SP Omegas that have dropped into Alpha state for time being. I.e, they would have already spent about 600 $/EUR on the game to be sitting on that amount of SP assuming quite focused build specific for flying sub-capitals at max level.

to be continued ...

To not have the system get abused from lots of alts being made up. Their should be a one time charge for all new accounts made. Also the alpha state clones should not be allowed on the test server. Limit the log on mount to 2 accounts only. :)

How people can abuse alfa clones in WH :
Plan is simple, put alfa clone in every WH and be able to monitor activity in this WH.
Now it is not about putting every WH we got, but people want to do it for all profitable.
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