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EXEFILE Login To Be Discontinued On September 20th

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Tanalasin Saraki
Perkone
Caldari State
#101 - 2016-09-06 12:24:39 UTC
Ded Akara wrote:
Hulk Miner wrote:
Ded Akara wrote:
Another nail in the coffin for EVE. Wonder how many players EVE loses this time. Won't be long before I'm one of them. Screw the launcher for logging in multiple accounts, it sucks.

Does anyone have a good method to log in multiple accounts quickly using the launcher?


Add all your accounts to the launcher and move the slider at the side enabling them to log in together then press play selected


What does the pin/unpin feature do? And what about that toggle to the left of the account name "Add this account to launch bundle" Can someone explain the difference between these two features?



Pin is so that it remembers the info you enter, this is handy if either more than one person plays EVE on one system, or if you run multiple characters.

The little toggle/slider is so that it will launch multiple accounts at one time, if you however only want one to launch then you only have to have one slider blue.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#102 - 2016-09-06 12:25:31 UTC
Ded Akara wrote:
What does the pin/unpin feature do? And what about that toggle to the left of the account name "Add this account to launch bundle" Can someone explain the difference between these two features?



Pinning is to remember a login. Pin it, and it'll be part of that 'bundle' of accounts which the launcher knows about. (I log into the launcher with Account A. I pin accounts B and C. Whenever I start the launcher, and log into it with Account A, accounts B and C show up. This is separate from logging into the game)

launch bundles are for when you tell the launcher to start multiple clients up.

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Pippan
MongStars
#103 - 2016-09-06 12:32:28 UTC
So those of us who uses IsBoxer for borderless window management is told to go fuckle ourselves? :(
Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#104 - 2016-09-06 12:51:09 UTC
Tenko Sanka wrote:
I use XP and have five accounts all subbed! I still use the old login method via Exe.exe and cannot download or use the new login method. How will I be able to login or do I just give up and not play until I buy a new PC? A bit stupid to have to pay £750 to play a £5 game imho. UghCry


It costs £40 (you can really buy a legal copy for this much) to buy a copy of win 7.
You are also paying ~£50 a month on eve not £5
You are also using a 15 year old OS and should prob think about not doing so anymore.
If your PC is so old it does not meat the spec for running win7/the game maybe you should not sub 5 accounts for a few months and bring yourself into 2016.
Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
#105 - 2016-09-06 12:56:32 UTC
Tappits wrote:
You are also paying ~£50 a month on eve not £5
You're insinuating he is using real money to subscribe the accounts, and not Plex Blink
Other than that, I already wrote him about windows 7 being cheap. I haven't seen a computer to date who wouldn't run Win 7 properly when it could smoothly run winXP.
Warlord Balrog
303rd X-SOLDIER
#106 - 2016-09-06 13:17:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Warlord Balrog
Torr Victros wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
we are currently in the process of working on changes to the EVE Online client that will result in the removal of the ability to log into EVE via launching exefile.exe from the EVE\sharedcache\%servername%\bin\ folder.


I find the new launcher has made it easier to run my multiple accounts, manage profiles, and access the test servers, so this change really won't be a problem except for that my corporation uses Mumble.

To make the Mumble overlay work on Windows 10, it is often necessary to add the exefile.exe's path in the shared cache to Mumble's white list. Without this, the overlay just won't work.

What will the new file and path be? I, and a lot of my corp-mates, will need to know this to adjust our Mumble overlay settings.

Thanks.


If I had to guess I would say they will simply remove the login and password prompts, as well as the button from the client. The launcher simply forks the data through memory to the process. Think of it like this:

I want to taste that apple, but I cannot bend
-- [I want to login, but exefile.exe doesn't have the prompt]
Extend arm and grab apple
-- [type user & pass into launcher]
Move it to your face
-- [launcher executes exefile.exe and tells process #3810 your name is blah and your password is whatever]
Bite
-- [Select which character you want to login to]

/EDIT: You shouldn't have to change anything...I could be wrong, however I'm sure it'll be simply finding what process is being used "CTRL-ALT-DEL -> Task manager" and find out what file is running for each client :) When in doubt, google!



Drazz Caylen wrote:
Tappits wrote:
You are also paying ~£50 a month on eve not £5
You're insinuating he is using real money to subscribe the accounts, and not Plex Blink
Other than that, I already wrote him about windows 7 being cheap. I haven't seen a computer to date who wouldn't run Win 7 properly when it could smoothly run winXP.


Agreed, I remember a few times friends kept telling me I couldn't run XP or 2k on a 486, but I did. People grossly exaggerate minimum specs because if they don't, people act like 3 year olds who haven't eatten yet when something goes wrong and it's clearly not whose fault they think...with that being said:

Launcher: 1069348.1031 fails to keep login data. It doesn't constantly ask me for character names. And it doesn't matter if I reinstall, clear cache, delete files manually and run the launcher installer fresh from the website. The launcher is broken, period. And not on Winblows 10, it's also broken on any other OS. So it isn't OS-based errors, and it isn't user error...it's broken launcher code. But face it, every game has bugs, and every game yet to be released will too. It's evolution and nature, as we are only human -- we make mistakes.
Disposable ForumToon846
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#107 - 2016-09-06 13:26:51 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Ded Akara wrote:
What does the pin/unpin feature do? And what about that toggle to the left of the account name "Add this account to launch bundle" Can someone explain the difference between these two features?



Pinning is to remember a login. Pin it, and it'll be part of that 'bundle' of accounts which the launcher knows about. (I log into the launcher with Account A. I pin accounts B and C. Whenever I start the launcher, and log into it with Account A, accounts B and C show up. This is separate from logging into the game)

launch bundles are for when you tell the launcher to start multiple clients up.


That'd be nice if it didn't forget all my logins, pin or no pin.
Ded Akara
Doomheim
#108 - 2016-09-06 14:32:33 UTC
Is there any way to create a login order for 'play selected'? Other than deleting accounts and adding them in order I mean. So if for example I wanted to log in a specific group of characters, I just load that group and hit play?
Warlord Balrog
303rd X-SOLDIER
#109 - 2016-09-06 14:36:21 UTC
Ded Akara wrote:
Is there any way to create a login order for 'play selected'? Other than deleting accounts and adding them in order I mean. So if for example I wanted to log in a specific group of characters, I just load that group and hit play?


Currently, the only sure-fire way to login to multiple accounts in a specified order is use the "play" icons near the accounts and waiting up to 5 seconds between clicks. This way you control the order each and every time...albeit it makes multi launch feature of the launcher moot.

Short answer is no.
Makkuro Tatsu
Spontaneous Massive Existence Failure
#110 - 2016-09-06 14:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkuro Tatsu
Warlord Balrog wrote:
Ded Akara wrote:
Is there any way to create a login order for 'play selected'? Other than deleting accounts and adding them in order I mean. So if for example I wanted to log in a specific group of characters, I just load that group and hit play?


Currently, the only sure-fire way to login to multiple accounts in a specified order is use the "play" icons near the accounts and waiting up to 5 seconds between clicks. This way you control the order each and every time...albeit it makes multi launch feature of the launcher moot.

Short answer is no.

Long answer is yes. Accounts can be ordered in the launcher using drag-and-drop. Logins happen from top to bottom, and launcher options also allow configuring the "delay in seconds between launching clients".
Warlord Balrog
303rd X-SOLDIER
#111 - 2016-09-06 14:52:51 UTC
Makkuro Tatsu wrote:
Warlord Balrog wrote:
Ded Akara wrote:
Is there any way to create a login order for 'play selected'? Other than deleting accounts and adding them in order I mean. So if for example I wanted to log in a specific group of characters, I just load that group and hit play?


Currently, the only sure-fire way to login to multiple accounts in a specified order is use the "play" icons near the accounts and waiting up to 5 seconds between clicks. This way you control the order each and every time...albeit it makes multi launch feature of the launcher moot.

Short answer is no.

Long answer is yes. Accounts can be ordered in the launcher using drag-and-drop. Logins happen from top to bottom, and launcher options also allow configuring the "delay in seconds between launching clients".


Oh! That wasn't an option previously when I used the launcher a few patches ago. Thanks for the correction :)
Ded Akara
Doomheim
#112 - 2016-09-06 15:04:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Ded Akara
Warlord Balrog wrote:
Makkuro Tatsu wrote:
Warlord Balrog wrote:
Ded Akara wrote:
Is there any way to create a login order for 'play selected'? Other than deleting accounts and adding them in order I mean. So if for example I wanted to log in a specific group of characters, I just load that group and hit play?


Currently, the only sure-fire way to login to multiple accounts in a specified order is use the "play" icons near the accounts and waiting up to 5 seconds between clicks. This way you control the order each and every time...albeit it makes multi launch feature of the launcher moot.

Short answer is no.

Long answer is yes. Accounts can be ordered in the launcher using drag-and-drop. Logins happen from top to bottom, and launcher options also allow configuring the "delay in seconds between launching clients".


Oh! That wasn't an option previously when I used the launcher a few patches ago. Thanks for the correction :)


Good.

Does anyone know if you can set multiple main login screen tabs? For example sometimes I want to log in my miners, which could be on accounts 1,2,3,4, plus a 2nd or 3rd tab i can switch to if i want to log in different accounts or in a different order. I can just switch to it and hit 'play selected'. This would make life much easier for logging in multiple accounts.
HaNN1BLe
Perkone
Caldari State
#113 - 2016-09-06 15:22:05 UTC
Yeah I don't really see any added security provided by this. Both connect to the same place. Looks more like a stab at legit multi-boxers that couldn't be justified. There is plenty of code that still needs fixed.
Your Launcher Sucks
Doomheim
#114 - 2016-09-06 15:22:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Your Launcher Sucks
If you don't fix the problem with the launcher forgetting account info everytime there's a network connection drop (example: coming out of sleep mode), you will be losing 20+ accounts of mine. The only way I can use them at this point is with 3rd party solutions that use the .exe to launch the game.

And no this is not a threat to quit the game, I will still have my main accounts, I just can't justify keeping all these extra alts if I spend more effort logging them in than actually using them.
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#115 - 2016-09-06 16:27:20 UTC
Your Launcher Sucks wrote:
If you don't fix the problem with the launcher forgetting account info everytime there's a network connection drop (example: coming out of sleep mode)


The launcher team is aware that people are experiencing this type of problem, but my understanding is that they need fully documented bug reports with all the information they need to identify the issue.

If so, a well-documented bug report that includes a launcher log would be very helpful to the team. Here are some questions I'd suggest trying to answer clearly in your bug report:

1) If the launcher prompts for a login rather than presenting an account list, do you always log in with the same account username or do you sometimes use different usernames?
2) Do you always leave the launcher running or do you exit it and restart it between sessions?
3) If you have a series of steps that always cause the problem to occur, first, what did you do to get to the initial state of the launcher, and second, what are those steps that cause the problem?
4) What is the output when you run dxdiag.exe?
5) What is the output when you run msinfo32.exe? (Use the "Export..." function to save a text file.)
6) After you reproduce the problem, what are the contents of your launcher logs? (You can get to them by choosing "Show In Explorer > Launcher Logs" from the main launcher menu.)

If you can provide screenshots that illustrate the steps of your reproducing the problem, that might be helpful.

To get to the web page to submit a bug report, the easiest way is to click on the Bug Report button on the far right side of the launcher window.

Once you have a bug report that includes all of this information (most importantly, launcher logs!) please feel free to send me the EBR number and I'll pass it along to the launcher team so they can take a look at it.

If you encounter limits regarding the number or size of attachments in a bug report, please mention it when mailing me the EBR number and I can help you submit the information another way if it would be helpful.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#116 - 2016-09-06 16:48:08 UTC
Just a note folks to say that we are compiling a list of questions asked in the thread and will have updates and answers hopefully tomorrow.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#117 - 2016-09-06 17:32:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Primary This Rifter
I don't understand why CCP can't add 2FA directly into the EVE client, or perform some check that disallows users to login through the EVE client if 2FA is enabled for that account.

I can't imagine any programmatic reasons why this can't be done or why this would be difficult to do.

I mean, I've been using the new launcher since it was in beta and I've been overall pretty pleased with it. I have no idea why so many people are having problems with it and again I suspect the issue is PEBKAC. That said, this is a move that's clearly displeasing a fair amount of players and that should be addressed.
Emrys Alf
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#118 - 2016-09-06 18:15:39 UTC
Another announcement by CCP that just makes my gut turn over..

A major change with little warning that effects a lot of people done by folk it seem who are not aware of what it is like to play.

The current launcher just is not doing it's job. Mac can only really deal with one account and if the launcher is left open... well all sorts of strange things happen...

2FA is an option for people. Most of us own our own computer in a safe location and do not need 2FA. Yet more hoops and loops to jump through.

Leave things be till Launcher is working for all as it should and then ask us the users rather than dropping things in with 2 weeks notice.
Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#119 - 2016-09-06 18:31:57 UTC
So I have no idea why but logging in 6 clients with exe and leaving them on the log in screen with max settings was fine…. Log in 6 accounts with launcher in potato mode gfx and sit at the log in screens and its maxing out the mem and core of my gtx 980.. I have no clue why. close them re open same with exe and its fine again.

Also why does the launcher not auto close on log in?. or have an option to (minimise, why would I need to minimise? But not close?)
Thanks CCP
Makkuro Tatsu
Spontaneous Massive Existence Failure
#120 - 2016-09-06 18:59:02 UTC
Emrys Alf wrote:
A major change with little warning that effects a lot of people done by folk it seem who are not aware of what it is like to play.

"Little warning" as in it has been known to be in the pipe for a year? Let's not get into another unfounded iteration of "players were kept in the dark".

The launcher is not perfect yet, but for me it works in almost all cases, with multiple accounts, on both Mac OS X and Windows. The one issue I experience, and seldom, is that the launcher forgets previously pinned accounts, which can be a slight inconvenience or major irritation depending on the number of accounts a player uses. Switching between servers sometimes brings them back for me, but that's the one issue I'd like to see fixed.