Ships & Modules

I endorse this fit

What a glorious killmails this will produce hahahaha

is this guy actually this dense?[

No-one else in the thread is code, except that guy on page 1 who actually was reasonable. The rest of us are normal.

You sir are beyond help.

Stoopid troll.

CODE and Miniluv are quite willing to gank freighters and Orcas which can have tanks well over 250k. If folks want your ship popped there is nothing you can do other than not undocking. Even Chribba's Veldnaught could be ganked although I suspect it would take several hundred Taloses (generally does 12k damage before CONCORD destroys it) and/or catalysts (generally does 2-4k damage before CONCORD destroys it) because he only mines in Amarr (which is 1.0).

If you want to see what ships you'd be up against, and theorycraft some fit that might survive, then you want to look to see who CONCORD Police Commander kills and look for multiple kills within seconds. From this, you'll notice that the preferred ammo does kinetic + thermal damage.

I know you want to "send a message". The people you want to "send a message" to are not ones who will listen to any message you can send (except maybe a "come at me, bro" sort of challenge). Much like how you don't want to listen to the advice given here. There is no magic answer.
All the Procurer fits meet this requirement. I use something like this:

[Procurer, NullSec]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II

Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II, Mercoxit Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Mercoxit Mining Crystal Optimization I

Hornet II x5

Cap stable with my skills. Has about 69k ehp with my skills (according to EFT). It would have about 75k replacing the mercoxit rig with another core defense field extender.

You guys keep talking about ganking the veldnaught as if you would use taloses - however it is not in a 0.5 system, so your numbers for the talos are way off.

*if* you wanted to gank the veldnaught you would use tornadoes for the *alpha* damage. That is just the smart way to do it in a very high security system.

Thanks for the procurer fit. Not the first one like it hear but still a good suggestion. The problem with the procurer is, in practice, its TOO good of a tank for the isk it takes to destroy it and how easy it is to replace. What I mean by this is that code is too punk to even attack these if tanked well. While they can be used to afk mine with impunity, and that is a victory of another kind too, what I am really trying to do is provoke code into actually attacking and setting them up for some big losses at the hands of concord while getting nothing for their efforts and making fools out of them. Eventually humiliations like this will make them so gun shy that everything they say they have accomplished will be severely undermined and all face lost. I am seeing others have already gotten them to this point as so much of the activity they say is forbidden happens any way with impunity right in the heart of the territories they frequent most.

You offer some good other suggestions too like suggesting looking up commander kills, etc. Everything else you said about not undocking and messages is just the same kind of propaganda code emanates themselves and for all practical purposes not what actually happens or otherwise not an actual concern. But I am indeed sending a message, a message I am apparently not alone in the sending of too based on what I've seen in other threads; that code is completely ineffective in doing what they say they do, that they can be easily fooled and thwarted besides. This message is for all of eve but code can take it to heart if they want too.

To those that keep arguing with the OP, please understand...you cannot reason with him as he honestly does not understand what you are trying to say...it's a simple issue explained in this study linked below.

Incompetent People Really Have No Clue, Studies Find / They're blind to own failings, others' skills

As for a fit to meet the OP's desires for what ever reason they may be...Procurer, shield buffer tanked. 67.6K EHP

[Procurer, Procurer Bait Tank]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Medium Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Warrior II x5
Mining Drone II x5

Swap in lower meta mods if cost is still an issue and replace the DDAII with a mining booster if you feel so inclined.

Look, here, a true story.

(Skipping the fits as good suggestions are given already)

1. I got ganked by CODE once in highsec. I was afk mining while doing some ninja eve at work. It was a few years ago at least so not sure if they on zkill, but this did happen

2. I and my corp mates ganked CODE pods before with fast lock interceptors. They don't always fly implants free, and we found some genolution implants or PG implant probably to fit bigger guns.

3. This may sound off topic, but give you something to think about - I gamble in the region of tens and hundreds of billions ISK at iwantisk, even before that I had no ISK problem. I fit some velators with faction scram to get that +3 scram strength to catch Ventures in low sec. I never lost my faction fit Velator, but even if I did, do I care about the ISK loss? It's for the lulz and enjoyment, and we are talking about a single individual (me) here. CODE has pockets much much deeper than me. There comes a point in game where for some, ISK is almost irrelevant. The fact that you are thinking in terms of costing them ISK and surviving and making fools of them shows how petty and small you are compared to them. You have already lost. You can't compete or even challenge them. When a nobody like me faction fit velators for lulz (I know a few others who do this with other noob ships and T1 frigates in low sec), what is your 'victory' against CODE by costing them extra catalysts or even talos or tornados?

4. I don't need to mine for ISK, and I don't need to mine for any moral victory. But there's something zen about mining which I enjoy so I do it from time to time. And you know what? When I mine, my exhumer is completely untanked and max yield fit
. Because I know the mechanics and can avoid gank before any ship even arrives on grid. If you know what to watch out for you don't need any tank at all and they will never even get to lock you. How do you think people mine in null sec and WH when they can be ganked by anyone at any time? Covert cynos n black op drops in null, no local in WH, yet people mine high value ore safely and consistently. Just think about it.

So yeah, you got the fits already for what you want to achieve, got good advices from people, refused to see how this whole thing works - whatever. If you REALLY want to fight CODE, go make a few trillions first and some good friends in game. Your attempt is so petty that it's like an ant being stomped by a giant and saying you won because the giant spent more calory lifting his leg.

Get a grip and listen to people here. This is just lol.

Sorry for multi-posting, but I had some time to think about it that Federate Mega is actually the real thing. You can't achieve what you think by being cheap. Since getting a Federation Issue Mega is hard, even if you had unlimited ISK, here is something you can do.

Get a max tank - max resist Damnation, put 1,000 PLEX in the cargo and hang out 20km off Uedema gate. Invite them to cargo scan you and have a max fleet of Guardians remote repping you. Survive the on slaught and log off. Don't say a single word in local.

There. That's something a little more meaningful than whatever you are thinking of with insured T1 barge.

If you want to talk about 'ISK war' put ISK where your mouth is.

Take some procurers and mine in low sec until it is boring. There are better low sec ore sites. Bookmarks and staying aligned is a good idea. PvP happens. enjoy it.


[Procurer, Rogue_Trader]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive

Modulated Strip Miner II

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5

lowsec Mining Crystal I x1
lowsec Mining Crystal II x1