These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Changes to OS Minimum Requirements

First post
Author
Axhind
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#81 - 2016-04-26 13:38:14 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
On June 30th 2016 we will discontinue support for the old EVE launcher which will also bring our Windows XP and Vista support to an end. Players still using Windows XP will be unable to launch the EVE client from the new EVE Launcher.

Microsoft ended the mainstream support for Windows XP 7 years ago (14 April 2009) and extended support ended 2 years ago (April 8th 2014). While we wanted to maintain support for XP and Vista for as long as possible, it is now causing too great a burden on our development team.

Although we are aware this change will affect 3.2% of our player base, we cannot continue to maintain the additional overhead supporting this platform causes. Sunsetting Windows XP support will simplify development and the complexity of our platform testing. This allows us more time to focus on new features, such as providing a smoother and more enjoyable experience on our DirectX 11 client and puts us in a better position to end DirectX 9 support in the near future.

You will have 4 months until we remove the old EVE Launcher access on June 30th 2016. If you are unsure what Operating system you have you can check on this site.



Any chance you guys can switch over to vulkan? Would be very nice not to be tied down to windows (especially with recent MS ambitions to become a NSA partner).
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#82 - 2016-05-05 13:44:07 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Cat Harkness wrote:
I can understand XP, but why would ANYONE still be using VIsta?????????????????????


Some people still believe rickrolling is a thing and still use AOL and/or dial-up.



Rickrolling IS still a thing.

I'm never gonna give it up. Never gonna let you down.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#83 - 2016-05-28 10:33:07 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
The reason I use XP is because all my sh!t works, it's fast, reliable, easy to understand, easy to configure, maintenance-free and I like the non-bloated user interface (especially in legacy mode).

After 15 years it has reached a state of perfection - that's why there are no more updates. It's a finished product.

If my hardware doesn't change, and the programs I run don't change, then there is no need for my OS to change is there?

Having been born after 1960, I really don't understand this sentiment at all.
Elenahina
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#84 - 2016-05-28 10:44:59 UTC
So quick question. How can I know if I'm using the old launcher or the new one? I'm already on win 7 so switching is fine but I do see the news links so I assume I'm on the new one. If I am on the new one then I'm good to go. It works fine for me.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2016-05-28 11:45:06 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
The reason I use XP is because all my sh!t works, it's fast, reliable, easy to understand, easy to configure, maintenance-free and I like the non-bloated user interface (especially in legacy mode).

After 15 years it has reached a state of perfection - that's why there are no more updates. It's a finished product.

If my hardware doesn't change, and the programs I run don't change, then there is no need for my OS to change is there?

Having been born after 1960, I really don't understand this sentiment at all.


It can only add insult to the injury of getting shot by me ;-)
Mykale Kwijybow
#86 - 2016-06-01 01:06:16 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Resinball wrote:
IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong.

Not everyone wants to put up with that ****. UI ****, system **** and it's pretty much the biggest privacy nightmare on this planet.
I'll stick with 7 (used exclusively for gaming and without all these "critical" telemetry / anti-privacy updates) until EVE stops supporting it. And when that happens I'll either find a decent alternative that I can get along with (Wine isn't one... I won't cripple GodsOS with that **** and won't put up with the security nightmare) or stop playing EVE.


I couldn't agree more. If CCP discontinues support for Windows 7, I will stop playing EVE. I am already considering going PS4 instead of buying a new PC, as I completely disagree with the Windows 10 ideology.

"Give a man a bullet and he'll want a gun. Give a man a gun and he'll give away bullets"

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#87 - 2016-06-01 01:54:09 UTC
Mykale Kwijybow wrote:

I couldn't agree more. If CCP discontinues support for Windows 7, I will stop playing EVE. I am already considering going PS4 instead of buying a new PC, as I completely disagree with the Windows 10 ideology.

There is now an "unofficial" native linux launcher provided by CCP Snorlax if you are looking for an alternative way to play EVE.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=482663&find=unread
Atum
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
#88 - 2016-06-01 15:37:37 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Mykale Kwijybow wrote:

I couldn't agree more. If CCP discontinues support for Windows 7, I will stop playing EVE. I am already considering going PS4 instead of buying a new PC, as I completely disagree with the Windows 10 ideology.

There is now an "unofficial" native linux launcher provided by CCP Snorlax if you are looking for an alternative way to play EVE.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=482663&find=unread

Very cool. I realize changing graphics APIs is a royal PITA, but with Microsoft going in the direction they are, and WINE being a wrapper, perhaps for the next engine overhaul CCP ought to think of moving to Vulkan instead of DirectX.
Leonardo Bonacci
Resurrection Complex
RAZOR Alliance
#89 - 2016-06-01 19:32:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Leonardo Bonacci
Indeed, ditching DirectX and instead of it using OpenGL or Vulkan would make it much better.
With OpenGL, so many obstacles would be gone and compatibility would incomparable.
tearshed
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2016-06-02 14:35:06 UTC
Hi CCP can you please respond to this
Kommoddo wrote:
what about steam it launches with the old launcher?


Steam is very finnicky when it comes to MMOs that update themselves with their own launcher (EVE, TERA) and asking steam to download files....basically you download steams old files and have to update the game again through the launcher. Huge waste of time and bandwidth.
Tiranius Avetus
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#91 - 2016-06-06 10:35:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiranius Avetus
Anyone here understand how many years it will take to move 13 years of development to a new API?

Also, CCP officially supports 2 systems: Win and Mac. While we already seen Vulkan demos on Win, i have real doubts that Apple will support it, as they now have their own Metal API.
Tim Helmert
Section31
#92 - 2016-06-07 11:41:57 UTC
good news!
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
#93 - 2016-06-07 12:11:49 UTC
so if we still play on vista or xp and soon game stops running can we modify our system registry to chet this and still play eve on old OS or there is no other way than upgrading system? not all people are rich eoungh to buy new OS or new machine for the OS change just to play eve. this is discriminating
Cakahr
Status Unknown.
Ops-Elite
#94 - 2016-06-07 12:30:56 UTC
I use the old launcher for both my steam and out of steam accounts....on tranquility. So that 4 month notification has turned into less than 30 days.

I used the beta launcher a few times; but the last time it mangled up my overview settings. (last week)

So where is the forum posts / FAQ on how to use the new launcher with my steam account?

Is there a FAQ on how to setup the new launcher with links so it will go the the correct server and use the specific account?

And is there a way to prevent sharing of settings bleed thru; one account is set for specific type of tasks, overlays from impacting the other?

I have installs for each account, and one for the test server to prevent bleed thru of settings or bugs from causing more fun than necessary.




Mr Zeph
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2016-06-07 12:59:55 UTC
Ok so I have to use the new launcher.

Last time I looked at installing it it didn't seem as if it was going to port my settings.

I have 6 characters across 2 accounts with one Eve install many symlinks and at least two desktop shortcuts per char. This is so I can have multiple setups for each char depending on what am I doing. (3/2/1 screen(s) all windows in Eve setup for different purposes depending on shortcut used to start eve etc.

So will the new launcher port all these settings now? If not can someone point me to an Eli5 guide on moving to the new launcher retaining all my setups?

Many thanks,

MZ


Kabaos
Fulgur lumene
#96 - 2016-06-07 13:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Kabaos
Did not pass a couple of days as the ccp warned the players about in the future will refuse from DX9 and Vista. As it turns out, the future begins on 30 June. "All for the players community" Bear
Kabaos
Fulgur lumene
#97 - 2016-06-07 13:28:02 UTC
I wonder whether it is possible to influence CCP this venture or "truck" do not care. How much should vote for or against. Or decisions are made without an appeal.
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#98 - 2016-06-07 15:04:15 UTC
Axhind wrote:
Any chance you guys can switch over to vulkan? Would be very nice not to be tied down to windows (especially with recent MS ambitions to become a NSA partner).
At some time in the maybe-not-so-distant-but-still-a-fair-bit-away future, then DirectX 11, OpenGL and Metal, will start to show their age. APIs such as Vulkan and DirectX 12 will then take over.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Juggalo Stazz
Go'ram Pirates
#99 - 2016-06-07 15:07:56 UTC
Anke Eyrou wrote:
So if I cancel my accounts because I dont want to upgrade my OS will I get a refund on them as I will no longer be able to play Eve?


I always get a laugh out of people that pull stuff like this. Always pulling the sympathy/victim card. Maybe if people would read the EULA, there would be less issues with these types of updates.

D. Software Updates

CCP may from time to time update or otherwise modify the Software electronically. You hereby grant CCP permission to: (i) extract hardware system profile data from your computer; (ii) extract information from your computer's file directories pertaining to the Game and your ability to access the System; (iii) download to your computer content and Game files and any data related to the operation of the Game. The foregoing applies to any computer from which you log into the System using your Account.


E. New Releases of the Software

You are not entitled to receive any new releases of the Software, or any expansion packs, updates, upgrades or similar products under the EULA, but CCP may, in its sole discretion, offer any or all of the foregoing to you. CCP may update, upgrade or otherwise enhance the Software at any time, in its sole discretion, without obligation to you.
CCP shall not be responsible in any way for your inability to access the System or play EVE, and you shall not be entitled to receive a refund of any prepaid fees or any other form of compensation.

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#100 - 2016-06-07 15:07:57 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
So quick question. How can I know if I'm using the old launcher or the new one? I'm already on win 7 so switching is fine but I do see the news links so I assume I'm on the new one. If I am on the new one then I'm good to go. It works fine for me.
Is the login box on the far-left (old) or somewhere in the middle (new/current)?

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer