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Changes to OS Minimum Requirements

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Tom Schlong
The Legion of Spoon
#61 - 2016-03-08 09:45:29 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Thre are also some devs which are enthusiastic about that OS and it looks like they are looking out for us.
I'd love a comment or statement from either the enthusiastics or the opposite faction devs concerning this topic. Smile
Do you really look out for us? Or is it rather an unassertive side view and that's all we can hope for?

Nana Skalski wrote:
So only viable way of playing EVE on machines that had XP installed will be Linux and Wine I suppose.
Will there be any support/hints/help/connections from the devs towards Wine in any way?
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#62 - 2016-03-08 11:35:00 UTC
Tom Schlong wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Thre are also some devs which are enthusiastic about that OS and it looks like they are looking out for us.
I'd love a comment or statement from either the enthusiastics or the opposite faction devs concerning this topic. Smile
Do you really look out for us? Or is it rather an unassertive side view and that's all we can hope for?

Checkout the Linux subforums, CCP Snorlax is quite active there and has even fixed wine specific bugs in the past like the issue with the CQ.

Tom Schlong wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
So only viable way of playing EVE on machines that had XP installed will be Linux and Wine I suppose.
Will there be any support/hints/help/connections from the devs towards Wine in any way?

At least on MacOS they start to support wine now (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=472538&find=unread). It seams that the new launcher has the potential to run EVE with wine. So maybe we will see support for Linux in the future as well, at least they will check for possible problems with wine from now, which is awesome.
Ket Ama'Kel
Anest Iwata
#63 - 2016-03-08 14:49:53 UTC
I haven't read the entire thread so someone may have mentioned this already.

For any XP users who read this...Since most outlets wanted $100 or thereabouts I have stuck with XP all these years.

I did some googling and found a copy of Windows 7 for about $40 and decided to go for it. Just upgraded to Windows 7 over the weekend. This entitled me to a free Windows 10 upgrade. The free offer is good until July.

It was a pain as I had to do a clean install, but I had so much junk on my computer it was probably a good idea. For Windows 10 Microsoft got away from the goofy Windows 8 interface and went with a more "stylish" XP scheme with the start menu. The new lok isn't hard to adapt to.

I was pleasantly surprised to find my machine worked more efficiently. Frames per second went up quite a bit. With Win 7 or Win 10 and a newer graphics card (used Radeon 6850) on my old Dell Dimension I can run with the sliders maxxed.

If you don't want to do a clean install, I've heard you can save your stuff by upgrading from XP to Vista and then upgrading to Win 10

Regards,
Ket


Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2016-03-08 15:36:24 UTC
????

Waitaminute.

I'm not ready to accept this on face value. I've seen Windows 3, 95, 98, Vista, Win 8 ... as well as a plethoria of other Microsoft products dating back to 1983. Are you telling me there's a Windows version that's neither NT nor XP that actually works well?

Could somebody please confirm this intel??

I might be tempted (cause yes, I have seen the Win 10 upgrade offer but went with my gut feeling and ignored it) but I need more than just one random's guy assurance.
Ilian Amarin
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#65 - 2016-03-08 21:49:05 UTC
Ket Ama'Kel wrote:
I haven't read the entire thread so someone may have mentioned this already.

For any XP users who read this...Since most outlets wanted $100 or thereabouts I have stuck with XP all these years.

I did some googling and found a copy of Windows 7 for about $40 and decided to go for it. Just upgraded to Windows 7 over the weekend. This entitled me to a free Windows 10 upgrade. The free offer is good until July.

It was a pain as I had to do a clean install, but I had so much junk on my computer it was probably a good idea. For Windows 10 Microsoft got away from the goofy Windows 8 interface and went with a more "stylish" XP scheme with the start menu. The new lok isn't hard to adapt to.

I was pleasantly surprised to find my machine worked more efficiently. Frames per second went up quite a bit. With Win 7 or Win 10 and a newer graphics card (used Radeon 6850) on my old Dell Dimension I can run with the sliders maxxed.

If you don't want to do a clean install, I've heard you can save your stuff by upgrading from XP to Vista and then upgrading to Win 10

Regards,
Ket




Partly OEM keys but for such low prices, who cares.

Its a german site but the shops should all be in english.

http://www.keyforsteam.de/windows-7-professional-key-kaufen-preisvergleich/
Kommoddo
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2016-03-09 22:02:41 UTC
what about steam it launches with the old launcher?
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2016-03-09 22:57:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Brokk Witgenstein
There is a way to convert Steam accounts to EvE accounts (through account management).

I did the same, works like a charm.

PS: it has the additional benefit of being able to log in two accounts at once Big smile
Dak Hakin
Doomheim
#68 - 2016-03-10 09:33:39 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
????

Waitaminute.

I'm not ready to accept this on face value. I've seen Windows 3, 95, 98, Vista, Win 8 ... as well as a plethoria of other Microsoft products dating back to 1983. Are you telling me there's a Windows version that's neither NT nor XP that actually works well?

Could somebody please confirm this intel??

I might be tempted (cause yes, I have seen the Win 10 upgrade offer but went with my gut feeling and ignored it) but I need more than just one random's guy assurance.


I was happy with windows 8.1, but decided to do the free upgrade to 10. I am happier with that than any other windows OS that I have used, going back to 3.1. Its more stable, and faster.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#69 - 2016-03-15 02:18:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Cat Harkness wrote:
I can understand XP, but why would ANYONE still be using VIsta?????????????????????



Resinball wrote:
thank ******* god... the chip manufacturers are even on board with this, which is even more reason to force an upgrade for an old dead systems with huge security holes. NO MORE SUB 10!!! HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong.

Thank you CCP For ending legacy device support.



Acting as if everyone has the financial choice for a "new computer" or even purchasing any version of windows.. I don't particularly enjoy when vista decides to do this to my hard drive.

http://i.imgur.com/MG8RWJt.jpg?1

But for whatever reason Vista does it, and it lags the **** out of everything. We did buy an nvidia 750 gtx card for 100$ a bit ago when the 8800GS we had decided to melt, problem is it has more memory than the pc does. Got another 2 gig ram stick from a scrapped pc to bring it up to 4. It's my dads pc.


Also helps that I smashed my http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_migrated/pics/HP_Pavilion_dv2_Image_6_04.jpg in a fit of rage 2½ years ago because of a "get a job" argument constantly being directed at it. It's a long story. Was a nice computer too.


At least they didn't say "wont be supported by vista indefinitely".

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?

Mercury Madullier
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2016-03-15 23:53:51 UTC
That's is it. I am sick and tired of this nonsense. I am going to take my money (what's left of it) and go elsewhere. I refuse.to to put up with this garbage for another second .

I AM GOING TO UNSTALL WINDOWS XP ASAP. good riddance.





You didn't think I was talking about Eve, did you?
45thtiger 0109
Brave Collective
#71 - 2016-03-17 01:03:51 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
On June 30th 2016 we will discontinue support for the old EVE launcher which will also bring our Windows XP and Vista support to an end. Players still using Windows XP will be unable to launch the EVE client from the new EVE Launcher.

Microsoft ended the mainstream support for Windows XP 7 years ago (14 April 2009) and extended support ended 2 years ago (April 8th 2014). While we wanted to maintain support for XP and Vista for as long as possible, it is now causing too great a burden on our development team.

Although we are aware this change will affect 3.2% of our player base, we cannot continue to maintain the additional overhead supporting this platform causes. Sunsetting Windows XP support will simplify development and the complexity of our platform testing. This allows us more time to focus on new features, such as providing a smoother and more enjoyable experience on our DirectX 11 client and puts us in a better position to end DirectX 9 support in the near future.

You will have 4 months until we remove the old EVE Launcher access on June 30th 2016. If you are unsure what Operating system you have you can check on this site.


So true CCP Falcon.

My Gaming rig I built it about 6 ago and it is still current.

It also runs windows 10 and DX 11 and runs EvE very well for a nearly 6 year old system.

I agree its time for CCP to have the client side running in 64 bit instead of 32 bit.

**You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good.

Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**

Alia Ravenswing
DARK HAT
#72 - 2016-03-19 19:06:32 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:

Have you tried to run it with wine on Linux? I too play for 8-9 years, but always on Linux, and there is a quite active community in the Linux subforum which always has a solution if stuff breaks. Thre are also some devs which are enthusiastic about that OS and it looks like they are looking out for us.


No I haven't, but I am building a new system and it will run Windows 7 and/or Linux flavors so I will try it at that point.
Alia Ravenswing
DARK HAT
#73 - 2016-03-19 19:12:06 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
????

Waitaminute.

I'm not ready to accept this on face value. I've seen Windows 3, 95, 98, Vista, Win 8 ... as well as a plethoria of other Microsoft products dating back to 1983. Are you telling me there's a Windows version that's neither NT nor XP that actually works well?

Could somebody please confirm this intel??

I might be tempted (cause yes, I have seen the Win 10 upgrade offer but went with my gut feeling and ignored it) but I need more than just one random's guy assurance.


Windows 10 is pure spyware. I would never recommend it.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
Brave Collective
#74 - 2016-03-20 22:34:20 UTC
I'm on Vista it's fine. Link in the OP tells me i'm not eligible for free upgrade to Win 10, it just says get a new computer.
Jaguar Landrover still uses Vista, lots of businesses do.
Heard too many stories of people losing all their settings getting the new launcher.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#75 - 2016-03-21 23:04:55 UTC
Alia Ravenswing wrote:
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
????

Waitaminute.

I'm not ready to accept this on face value. I've seen Windows 3, 95, 98, Vista, Win 8 ... as well as a plethoria of other Microsoft products dating back to 1983. Are you telling me there's a Windows version that's neither NT nor XP that actually works well?

Could somebody please confirm this intel??

I might be tempted (cause yes, I have seen the Win 10 upgrade offer but went with my gut feeling and ignored it) but I need more than just one random's guy assurance.


Windows 10 is pure spyware. I would never recommend it.


Well spyware is the future at this point, if you use anything run by google you're already giving away everything so at this point i gave up caring about any illusion of privacy, i don't really have much to hide anyway, at this point there are games coming out which require windows 10 and there will be more and more eventually so you'll either have to upgrade or just get relegated to older games
Malachir
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#76 - 2016-04-01 12:40:22 UTC
I use Vista, and have no problems with it. If the new launcher doesn't work with it, then we'll see if the shortcut works. If it doesn't, then I'm going have to consider a new computer...which will have to wait.

Xartarous
Ratting By Hand Sux
#77 - 2016-04-04 18:13:59 UTC
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but if being cash-strapped is one of the main reasons so many people are still using windows xp, it is actually possible to use Windows 8/10 free almost indefinitely with a clean install after about half a year.

Just download the Enterprise trial, re-activate until it won't allow you too, and then re-install. I've been doing that since Windows 7, works like a charm, and actually isn't too much of a pain once you learn to keep your data organized off the main system drive. Bear
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2016-04-04 22:20:11 UTC
The reason I use XP is because all my sh!t works, it's fast, reliable, easy to understand, easy to configure, maintenance-free and I like the non-bloated user interface (especially in legacy mode).

After 15 years it has reached a state of perfection - that's why there are no more updates. It's a finished product.

If my hardware doesn't change, and the programs I run don't change, then there is no need for my OS to change is there?
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2016-04-05 09:36:07 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:
If my hardware doesn't change, and the programs I run don't change, then there is no need for my OS to change is there?

If "your programs don't change" then how CCP should get their money?

And man, please don't tell me you still use horses? Cars exist for last 100 years!

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

TotallyNot AForumPod
Doomheim
#80 - 2016-04-26 11:37:32 UTC
But my alt is running on virtualbox, directx 9. Surely you dont plan to kill dx9 completely? .. That's pretty bad.