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Update regarding Multiboxing and input automation

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4481 - 2016-03-09 21:04:16 UTC
tasman devil wrote:
CyPhiR wrote:
I have a suggestion and I just hope a Ccp Dev is reading ... All the arguments about what is and isn't legal according to the eula rules, why doesn't Ccp with all their brilliant staff and coders, just design their own multi boxing software. Hell, I'd rather use Ccp software than use something that might or might not get my account banned ... Ccp, please think about it because it's stupid little arguments like this that keep putting me off this game .. I love eve and my sp level shows that ... Please seriously consider making your own multi boxing software designed specifically for eve online. Thanks. Game on guys and keep up the good work.Big smile

you sir, have my upvote!


They are banning the practice and would then make a tool to enable it?
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4482 - 2016-03-10 10:55:27 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:
And another idiot gets banned, RedThreat was streaming on Twitch apparently using isbox and using input automation on 26 accounts and got banned mid broadcast. He was also cutting and stitching windows somehow which is also illegal.

Awesome.
You say "awesome" but he made it clear on the stream it wasn't a new thing he was doing and that he knows others who do the same, which just makes me question more how well CCP can actually enforce these rules. If they need someone to be live streaming EULA violations for them to notice, it would seem there's no real point in having the rule in the first place, since people will still be breaking it and going unnoticed, making the disparity between them and legitimate players even greater.

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Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#4483 - 2016-03-10 12:11:16 UTC
I don't really care how long it takes to catch them, as long as they do.

Lets face it, anyone who streams it live deserves everything they get.

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4484 - 2016-03-13 19:54:41 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:
I don't really care how long it takes to catch them, as long as they do.

Lets face it, anyone who streams it live deserves everything they get.
But that's the point, if they require someone to live stream it before they are able to catch them then they aren't really going to fill your "as long as they do" criteria. Not to mention that a near equally efficient method of multiboxing using eve-o preview has been explicitly allowed making it all a bit pointless.

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Globby
Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished
Gimme Da Loot
#4485 - 2016-03-18 20:23:41 UTC
gj ccp +1 vote for stopping the cheaters.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4486 - 2016-03-19 10:10:14 UTC
Globby wrote:
gj ccp +1 vote for stopping the cheaters.
Wrong thread bud, the one about hyperdunking is somewhere else. But I agree, huzzah for ending the cheating!

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guigui lechat
the no fock given
#4487 - 2016-03-24 16:16:29 UTC
marly cortez wrote:
Sadly this is not to be as CCP still refrain from either clarification of the position regarding such tools or giving the players what they so dearly would like to have, A suite of custom made tools they can trust that they can use without risking the ban hammer every time they turn on there computers.

You are stubborn. The issue is not the tool, it's the usage. A usage was not correct and people kept using it : CCP added the "that's bad" to the EULA.

Now, you have questions, use your eyes to read and your brain to understand what's been written. If you have doubt that something may be forbidden, that often means you already know the answer. Up to you to play cat and mice.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4488 - 2016-03-24 16:54:15 UTC
guigui lechat wrote:
You are stubborn. The issue is not the tool, it's the usage. A usage was not correct and people kept using it : CCP added the "that's bad" to the EULA.

Now, you have questions, use your eyes to read and your brain to understand what's been written. If you have doubt that something may be forbidden, that often means you already know the answer. Up to you to play cat and mice.
But How Can The EULA Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?

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Ka en Bauldry
Red Cold Chili Banderlogs Academy
PEPE SQUAD
#4489 - 2016-04-15 20:21:50 UTC
Forgive me if it was already asked. But I have a keyboard which supports macro and I was thinking to create macro which hits Alt+D for me every second while I'm in WH. Is it considered as input automation and ban'able? Thanks in advance.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4490 - 2016-04-16 14:24:13 UTC
Ka en Bauldry wrote:
Forgive me if it was already asked. But I have a keyboard which supports macro and I was thinking to create macro which hits Alt+D for me every second while I'm in WH. Is it considered as input automation and ban'able? Thanks in advance.
If it's a button that you push once per second which just does Alt+D once, it's fine. If it's something you push once then it just does it on it's own every second, then it's not OK.

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Ka en Bauldry
Red Cold Chili Banderlogs Academy
PEPE SQUAD
#4491 - 2016-04-28 22:49:50 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
If it's a button that you push once per second which just does Alt+D once, it's fine. If it's something you push once then it just does it on it's own every second, then it's not OK.


I can program the keyboard either way:
https://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/help/support/how-to/keyboard/macros

The keyboard is:
https://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/help/support/how-to/keyboard/use-sidewinder-x6-keyboard

Do we have other opinions here? :)
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#4492 - 2016-04-29 19:24:37 UTC
Ka en Bauldry wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
If it's a button that you push once per second which just does Alt+D once, it's fine. If it's something you push once then it just does it on it's own every second, then it's not OK.


I can program the keyboard either way:
https://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/help/support/how-to/keyboard/macros

The keyboard is:
https://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/help/support/how-to/keyboard/use-sidewinder-x6-keyboard

Do we have other opinions here? :)



As Lucas says, binding Alt+D to another key is fine.

Making your keyboard press Alt+D for you is not.

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Ka en Bauldry
Red Cold Chili Banderlogs Academy
PEPE SQUAD
#4493 - 2016-05-09 17:00:12 UTC
Thanks guys.
kraken11 jensen
ROOKS AND KRAKENS
#4494 - 2016-05-23 15:25:39 UTC
Just realized how many views this tread had, wow. and just, wow. Shocked
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#4495 - 2016-06-12 18:29:58 UTC
kraken11 jensen wrote:
Just realized how many views this tread had, wow. and just, wow. Shocked



Its only like 3/4 guys and all their alts.
Angry Arnst
W.O.R.M-S.W.A.R.M
#4496 - 2016-07-14 21:37:07 UTC
So when ya gonna fix it so when -9.0 -10.0 can't freely jump about that's what I wondering sure a lot getting tired being ganked bye code for there bs claiming buy permit and what not you want fix make changes do something about that
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#4497 - 2016-09-06 13:26:02 UTC
Removed a post for ranting and thread necromancy. Thread Closed as the discussion is done.

ISD Max Trix

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