Wormholes

Can each capital just spawn an additional Drifter Boss at the end of the site?

This gives a total of 4 Drifters (which means lower the loot dropped to around 250 each) so reward for this will be 1.3B - If they behave like HAW Dreads (which would be great) this would force the capitals to stay to fight them, as the Subcaps would get popped!

The extra Drifter Bosses will also attempt to warp off, if the capital that spawns it leaves grid - chasing the Cap?

The Devs must remember that we need a reason to risk our ships... we Min Max for a reason, and IMO this is very similar to the whole Trollcepter bull!

+1

Regarding the new Boss, as always, the wormhole community will come up with a workaround. I don't see it as being anything other than a power play by CCP in reducing the isk/hr of C5/6 w-space. Sure, it will be interesting if more than a handful of these things are let loose so to speak, but it would still come back to having the ability to generate isk. If you can't generate isk you're not in the game in any way shape or form. So I have to ask, how is that going to generate content?

Another question, while the power brokers were mulling this idea over, did they ever ask themselves why do people bear/jew? Of course they did, so we know the decision to implement these changes was not based on creating content but reducing our ability to generate isk. If the majority of us generate isk to fund our pvp, what does that do for content? Maybe I'm being a little naive here but for me at least it's not rocket science, if you take away my ability to earn isk, you take away my ability to fund my pvp, and that doesn't create content, it kills it.

Oh yeah, while I'm on the subject, this **** about farming your static to negate losing the ability to farm and maybe creating content at the same time??? Seriously, what do you think residents are going to do now that they've lost the ability to farm their sites? C'mon, it's not rocket science, your all thinking it............they'll simply run them. Now we're on the same page. They'll be very few sites left untouched, hence farming your static will become a mute point. Rage rolling for pve anyone??? : )

So with that being said, these guys, the power brokers, know exactly what they're doing, their ******* with our ability to exist and operate within w-space. this whole premise of creating content blah blah blah, it's all bullshit, but why, why go down this road, what's the end result??? There's something else driving this change and it isn't isk/hr or content creation. Any other consequences that come out of it, trust me, are all part of the equation, however discretely CCP tries to disguise them. Conspiracy theorist, indulge me please : ))

Pretty sure you are all very bad at reading (I hope)...

Escalation wave 1 (dread) : 3 NPCs, 38M ea. = 114M
Escalation wave 2 (carrier): 3 NPCs, 38M ea. = 114M
Escalation wave 3 (fax): 3 NPCs, 38M ea. = 114M
That's 342M for just the escalation portion
Then add another 350M for the drifter boss
Plus whatever the original site gives you

C6s have 4 per wave at 51M ea.

Pretty sure you're the one who's bad at reading, friend. The post says "38m per WAVE," not "38m per NPC." A wave is comprised of 3 (or 4) NPCs. You can hope that it means 114m per escalation wave, but the way his post is worded means that it's 38m per escalation spawn, not 114m. That means all 3 escalation waves would get you 114m, not 342m. Unless he clarifies this further, we're definitely not reading it wrong.

I doubt that 2-3 rattles have same dps as a dread. Maybe with the new dread subcap weapons, but the escalations and the drifter are going to be capital-sized so you would fit the capital weapons on your dread. No way 3 rattles will do the same damage.

But even if they did... to field three rattles you need three people or three accounts that have to be plexed. So yes, for efficient farming people will still use dreads. Three typical wh rattles are not even that much cheaper than one t2-fit ratting dread.

Biz pls don't stop spewing salt this is great.

Edit: playing biz bingo, we got a corbexx callout, lack of capital experience callout, ccp bring short-sighted callout. With the free spot I almost got a bingo

Dreads get nerfed pretty hard with citadel. You won't be blapping sub caps with the big guns like you do now, so you'll need a sizable sub cap fleet anyway to clear the "normal" NPCs.

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Why "even more"? People dont run escalation sites with subcap kitchen sink fleets now. Or those who do get absolutely crappy income from it because it's very low-efficiency and has terrible payout per pilot. Soloing c2 sites with a BC is much more profitable.

Red Giant is a special case and I agree it should be nerfed.

Everyone gets hung up on the measly payout for the new escalations when the big prize is the drifter with 350m payout. The important thing here is that to kill the drifter efficiently we will have to kill it with caps. The drifter will be the reason to bring caps. Because without caps we need a much larger number of subcaps to kill it – same as it is now perfectly possible to kill the escalation waves with only subcaps but it is not done because it's not efficient.

As long as the drifter can be killed with a few capitals much more efficiently than with a few subcaps, there shouldn't be a problem. Capitals will be useful and thus, they will be fielded.

Even better, since the dreads will shoot sleepers that are capital-sized, they can be properly fitted for capital warfare and not for tracking. This means they will not be such easy prey for gankers fielding gank dreads. Now the ratting dreads will be more dangerous defenders.

Maybe a bit offtopic and its an old idea but how about making it so that killing those Drifters increases the chance of wormholes connecting to that system? I feel like it would add a lot of depth to w-space gameplay.