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Citadels are now on Singularity

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CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#121 - 2016-03-22 14:55:59 UTC
DaOpa wrote:

You can anchor Citadels at Static DED Complexes, even ones that require a special key to get into...

Making these even more secure since the only way to get to them is via this gate.


I assume this is not going to be allowed or be prevented in a way?


This will not be allowed. Will not ship to TQ like this. If you could throw me the name of one of these sites I will get a defect entered so we remember to fix this.Big smile

Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters
Gina Rosenstall
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#122 - 2016-03-22 14:56:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Gina Rosenstall
CCP Claymore wrote:
Gina Rosenstall wrote:
1. Bug reporting on SISI not working, since I can't select a category and can't report wo one
2. Can't rename citadel "You can't rename that type of object".
3. Can't take control of my citadel; button is greyed out.

Edit:
4. After undocking from a citadel (or station) the overview is emtpy besides the sun. I have to switch tabs to get it working again.
5. Guest list is empty, even when I am docked.
6. Station window is not visible until you activate it with ctrl+tab.
7. If I dock with the structure browser open, the citadel correctly shows the name of my corporation in the station window, but if I dock with it closed, it show no corporation.
8. If I dock with the structure browser open, the citadel correctly shows "View outside structure" as an option in the station window, but if I dock with it closed, it shows "Enter Ship Hangar" even if I am already in the hangar.


3. Was someone already in control?

No, since no one from my corp was online on SISI at that time. I am not sure if there is a problem with the ownership. It showed under "my citadels", but not under my corps citadels.

Edit: It shows partly as owned by my corp and partly by something like "The Rare Glitch Project".
CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#123 - 2016-03-22 15:00:11 UTC
Gina Rosenstall wrote:
CCP Claymore wrote:
Gina Rosenstall wrote:
1. Bug reporting on SISI not working, since I can't select a category and can't report wo one
2. Can't rename citadel "You can't rename that type of object".
3. Can't take control of my citadel; button is greyed out.

Edit:
4. After undocking from a citadel (or station) the overview is emtpy besides the sun. I have to switch tabs to get it working again.
5. Guest list is empty, even when I am docked.
6. Station window is not visible until you activate it with ctrl+tab.
7. If I dock with the structure browser open, the citadel correctly shows the name of my corporation in the station window, but if I dock with it closed, it show no corporation.
8. If I dock with the structure browser open, the citadel correctly shows "View outside structure" as an option in the station window, but if I dock with it closed, it shows "Enter Ship Hangar" even if I am already in the hangar.


3. Was someone already in control?

No, since no one from my corp was online on SISI at that time. I am not sure if there is a problem with the ownership. It showed under "my citadels", but not under my corps citadels.

Edit: It shows partly as owned by my corp and partly by something like "The Rare Glitch Project".


What system is this in?

Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters
Gina Rosenstall
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#124 - 2016-03-22 15:06:47 UTC
CCP Claymore wrote:
Gina Rosenstall wrote:
CCP Claymore wrote:
Gina Rosenstall wrote:
1. Bug reporting on SISI not working, since I can't select a category and can't report wo one
2. Can't rename citadel "You can't rename that type of object".
3. Can't take control of my citadel; button is greyed out.

Edit:
4. After undocking from a citadel (or station) the overview is emtpy besides the sun. I have to switch tabs to get it working again.
5. Guest list is empty, even when I am docked.
6. Station window is not visible until you activate it with ctrl+tab.
7. If I dock with the structure browser open, the citadel correctly shows the name of my corporation in the station window, but if I dock with it closed, it show no corporation.
8. If I dock with the structure browser open, the citadel correctly shows "View outside structure" as an option in the station window, but if I dock with it closed, it shows "Enter Ship Hangar" even if I am already in the hangar.


3. Was someone already in control?

No, since no one from my corp was online on SISI at that time. I am not sure if there is a problem with the ownership. It showed under "my citadels", but not under my corps citadels.

Edit: It shows partly as owned by my corp and partly by something like "The Rare Glitch Project".


What system is this in?

Thera. I am currently in it.
DaOpa
Static Corp
#125 - 2016-03-22 15:25:12 UTC  |  Edited by: DaOpa
CCP Claymore wrote:
DaOpa wrote:

You can anchor Citadels at Static DED Complexes, even ones that require a special key to get into...

Making these even more secure since the only way to get to them is via this gate.


I assume this is not going to be allowed or be prevented in a way?


This will not be allowed. Will not ship to TQ like this. If you could throw me the name of one of these sites I will get a defect entered so we remember to fix this.Big smile


System: Garisas
Beacon: Port Maphante
Has a warp to called "Blood Crypt" which is a static Blood Raiders complex site.



You can also post these 500k off Jove Observatories, and in a sense use it to farm Drifters.

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CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#126 - 2016-03-22 15:30:01 UTC
DaOpa wrote:
CCP Claymore wrote:
DaOpa wrote:

You can anchor Citadels at Static DED Complexes, even ones that require a special key to get into...

Making these even more secure since the only way to get to them is via this gate.


I assume this is not going to be allowed or be prevented in a way?


This will not be allowed. Will not ship to TQ like this. If you could throw me the name of one of these sites I will get a defect entered so we remember to fix this.Big smile


System: Garisas
Beacon: Port Maphante
Has a warp to called "Blood Crypt" which is a static Blood Raiders complex site.



You can also post these 500k off Jove Observatories, and in a sense use it to farm Drifters.


Right on, will take a look later this afternoon, thank you.

Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters
Circumstantial Evidence
#127 - 2016-03-22 16:13:13 UTC
"CCP is terrible, they never listen to us and release these features untested."

Thank you CCP Claymore for this post flood, and all of QA - for digging into the problem solving trenches every day!
CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#128 - 2016-03-22 16:42:01 UTC
Updated original post

Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters
Demolishar
United Aggression
#129 - 2016-03-22 17:48:50 UTC
I would like to see brighter colours used on the 'holograms' when anchoring citadels. It's quite hard to see them against the dark background of space currently. Just a tiny quality of life thing.
Tra'con Han
The reality disfunction
#130 - 2016-03-22 17:54:13 UTC
Please save my sanity!

How do I 'manage' this thing? I do not see an option, tried inside, in space, in the structure browser....

It was anchored without issue by this character (the ceo) but I have tried with another character as well. It is located in Aderkan.
NextDarkKnight
Storm Chasers.
Pandemic Horde
#131 - 2016-03-22 19:25:07 UTC
I noticed if I'm tethered to a citadel, if I eject it still shows my name as being in the ship and stays tethered.
Erin Aldent
Eagle Wing Industries
Triumvirate.
#132 - 2016-03-22 20:18:04 UTC
How does one go about finding and warping to these citadels, I could find no way to do it, other than a premade bookmark.
Unkind Omen
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#133 - 2016-03-22 20:31:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Unkind Omen
My medium citadel in Onnamon, planet V, managed to get into secured state without being fully repaired. In fact it only repaired 9% of its armor and I cannot do anything with its fitting.

Also it is not possible to warp to a bookmark created from offline or anchoring citadel. The error message is misleading stating that the warp lock cannot be obtained for warping or alignment.
LoisMustDie All-One-Word
To Love and Die in Dixie
#134 - 2016-03-22 20:43:32 UTC
Any special restrictions for anchoring in wormholes? Currently, moonlocking prevents hostiles from easily setting up a beachhead for an invasion. Is that defensive measure going away with the release of citadels?
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#135 - 2016-03-22 21:23:28 UTC
I did my first brawl today with a yellow blinky skiff. https://imgur.com/6tBCdR7

-the anticapital-missles didnt shot(not even the charon, that i tried before), there were no antisubcap-missles on the market.
-the traktor and the repulsor had no noticible effect
-the skiff could not fight back. the hobs didnt wanted to shoot the fighters

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Erin Aldent
Eagle Wing Industries
Triumvirate.
#136 - 2016-03-22 22:28:20 UTC
Mark O'Helm wrote:
-the traktor and the repulsor had no noticible effect


In that screen shot you are using both repulse and tractor at the same time, did you try one or the other?
Phoenix4264
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#137 - 2016-03-22 22:33:29 UTC

  1. Combat probing Citadels - When probing Citadels if you scan one down to 100% and then scan another location the result will degrade back to an un-warpable state. This is the same behavior we currently have for ships and deployables, so this is understandable, but it would be preferable that these results remain without needing to bookmark them. Structures are essentially celestials and cannot move without being unanchored and reanchored which takes a significant amount of time unlike a ship warping around a system. In particular this would be helpful for scouting the locations of all structures in a system. I live in w-space, and we regularly scout and catalog the locations of hostile POSs when exploring new systems. POSs are currently tied to moons, so we can scout these without ever needing to use probes. With the new structures we will need to probe them down to locate and put eyes on the hostile staging structure. This is already going to announce our presence to the locals more than we needed to do with the old POS system, I would prefer to be able to drop probes, quickly scan the structures and pull my probes before needing to warp around to look at them or make bookmarks.

  2. Probing while tethered - Currently you cannot launch probes while tethered, you get an error stating that "Your ship is realigning its magnetic field, please wait a moment." However if I leave the tether, either by flying out of range or warping off, I can launch probes and then return to the safety of the tether and continue probing. I don't have a particular preference one way or the other, but I feel you either should be able to probe while tethered in which case launching probes should be allowed or it should be disallowed entirely as it is currently when inside POS forcefields.
Blue Harrier
#138 - 2016-03-22 23:11:21 UTC
Slight bug found tonight;
Docked at medium citadel
Entered Hanger, noted the button had changed to View Outside.
Took control of citadel and did some checks
Released control of citadel and button had changed to Enter hanger but I was already in the hanger view
Clicked button and view changed to outside view again but button stayed the same at Enter Hanger.

Did this test twice more and it was repeatable.

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.
Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#139 - 2016-03-22 23:15:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Arline Kley
Tra'con Han wrote:
Please save my sanity!

How do I 'manage' this thing? I do not see an option, tried inside, in space, in the structure browser....

It was anchored without issue by this character (the ceo) but I have tried with another character as well. It is located in Aderkan.


You can anchor the citadel if you have Station Management roles, but to actually manage the station you need CEO/Director roles. It is also known that the interface is buggy, with some people with those roles having access and others not. You also need to click the "Take Control" option

I truely hope it isn't limited to that in the full release.

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#140 - 2016-03-23 00:04:26 UTC
Erin Aldent wrote:
Mark O'Helm wrote:
-the traktor and the repulsor had no noticible effect


In that screen shot you are using both repulse and tractor at the same time, did you try one or the other?

Yes, i tried them single handed and both. Maybe i don't understand proper what they should do.

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)