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I think we can all understand that. Or at least those willing to understand it, they will. But I'd like to throw a different and yet related wrench at that argument.

Years ago when I started playing EVE, the system reuirements were incredibly low even by the standards of the time and by comparison with other PC games. That was one of the reasons that led me to keep on playing EVE back then, to be honest. I would often log on using an ASUS eee notebook to update my skill queue on the go and take care of a few corp management things. Then the changes on the shader were implemented and it seems to me that was the point when EVE took a slightly different path to flashier and fancier graphics that started demanding higher computer requirements, on par of most other computer games.

This is not a bad thing by itself, but everytime you implement changes that increase the minimum system requirements, be it shaders, or the upcoming DX change, or this static station environment, you cut off a few percentage points off your player base. And you have even offered actual figures on that a few times, regarding the percentage of players that are using machines that won't meet every new requirements change.

And over time, with all those incremental changes, I do wonder the real weight that also has on your player base. Sure anough many such people will upgrade their hardware or buy a new computer. But not everyone can. We're still under the effect of a financial crisis and while the original intent behind PLEX was a different one, the data seems to point that not everyone can (or is at least willing) to spend real money to sub their accounts, much less invest on a new or renewed computer.

So I'd only suggest you consider that side as well and how many people and even new players from less common countries in the EVE universe, may be "locked out" of the game because of the computer they own. It could be that a better ballance between EVE graphic awesomeness and minimum system requirements to run the client could be found.

Or maybe not. It's just something that's been bothering me for a while so... there.

Thanks for keeping up with the thread.

I will second the bobbing issue but for a different reason. I often will connect to my PC via TeamViewer to update things in EVE remotely or to keep up on chat, etc. as CEO. The bobbing of the ship in station is a very unnecessary change in the UI that slows down the remote interface significantly which is why I disabled it. It would be very nice if the camera bob feature was tied to the ship bobbing in the station. I can work around by having a 100% non-transparent window like the market covering the ship but it seems an odd work around.

So I went and selected the WINE option. There's a crashing issue, which I'm trying to get reproducible data about, but mostly: wow.

Objection withdrawn.

I hope this doesn't mean we can't bypass CQ which is this games worst feature.

Performance of the dynamic station interior is abysmal. The GPUs on my desktop PC and notebook are working overtime for no discernible benefit. Please bring back the static hangar view or a suitable replacement ASAP.

Just a follow-up on this.

The graphics software team discussed revisiting this feature in light of the feedback we've received from players who preferred using it, and have concluded that we do not plan to do so.

Here are the settings I'd recommend trying if you wish to reduce the GPU and battery impact on your client:


Display and Graphics

Adapter Resolution: As low as you're comfortable going depending on your current monitor resolution.
UI scaling: 100%
Interval: If you're comfortable with a low frame rate, Interval Four. Otherwise, Interval One.

Uncheck all boxes in the center column, labeled Effects.

Resource Cache Enabled: On
HDR Enabled: Off

Anti-Aliasing: Disabled
Post-Processing: None
Shader Quality: Low
Texture Quality: Low
LOD Quality: Low
Shadow Quality: Disabled
Interior Effects: Low
Interior Shader Quality: Low

General Settings

In the far right column, move the Transparency dial to 0 (far left) and uncheck Enable Window Blur.

funny in window mode i have no interval other as immediate and one^^
(heared about other levels today for first time)

and i also got signifikant higher grafikload as bevore with the old 2d hangarview and its anoying
i dont need shipspinning i dont need little ships flying arround in station, i even DONT need the ship wobbling arround and flashing my eyes during night with some position lights!
(oh the undock warning lihgts i love)

i need low grafikworkload while in station to do all the thinks i do with these lot of ingame windows while docket
i understand the point to remove 2d function but now guys you have to pay the bill and do something to make the hangarview realy low in power need

right now its better to not dock the chars or only use one charwindow opened while in station

why is there not a way to lower all this grafikload in station and if i hear from sisi about a big screen in hangar with vids on it like in the capt, quartier i guess it will be even more worst in the future

also on this future feature we need mute and pause or a option to show all ingame news only once and stop after this
i dont need this on all my chars one on the main its enough^^

or will CCP buy me a new GPU and pay the power bill? or a new fan for my grafikcard because it sounds docked like an airplaneengine?

In which case it's a pain to use any other programs on other monitors because Eve disappears as soon as it loses focus.

Yes, I mean the team has decided not to pursue some other implementation of the "Load Station Environment" checkbox at this time.

If you like having higher than minimum performance settings while undocked, but you'd still like to reduce GPU load while docked, I'd recommend starting with turning window transparency to zero and disabling the window blur effect, both under General Settings.

I'm really curious about the specifics of what's going on for you. The hangar scene is a lot less heavy than anything you will see while undocked.

Do me a favor: Using your preferred graphics settings, open up the FPS meter (ctrl-f), and submit a bug report from in-game (F12 menu) with screenshots of the FPS meter while in station, immediately after undocking with the camera pointed at the station, and while engaging in normal gameplay away from the station. Then mail me the bug report number in-game.

My suspicion is that you may have all of your graphic quality settings turned up enough that you're not getting what we consider baseline acceptable performance in any of these situations. However, if there's something specifically bad about the hangar scene, we'd be happy to take a look.

Edit: I know you probably already have this covered, but please make sure that you're looking at the hangar scene and not the captain's quarters while docked.