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"Load Station Environment" option removed?

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Sky Marshal
Core Industry.
Blades of Grass
#61 - 2016-06-06 13:06:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Sky Marshal
CCP Darwin wrote:
Yeah, sorry, we're still working out how to get better reporting of system specs via our Wine wrapper. The most recent 17" MBP is still a pretty modest machine for Eve and I believe turning down your settings should be something to consider.

You don't seem to realize :

Whatever the computer (laptop or tower, MS or other), EVEN with shaders and all others settings at LOW, the deletion of the "Load Station Environment" make the GPU cry in pain (+10/15° than usual at low, more than I first stated one month ago as ambient T° is raising... I won't test at high... And just for a damn station, seriously...).

That means that now, there are ZERO settings who can help to reduce the power consumption of the station, who become worse with the billboard and new effects. Load Station Environment WAS the option to do that ! Depending of the player and computer, it will affect the responsiveness of the game, or it will be the tempatures who will become dangerously high (my case).

Now I have the reflex to load the old map and move the stars to a corner... as it permit to retrieve decent GPU temperatures. It is better when settings are setted at low, but even at high the old map still help to reduce temperatures a bit.

So, I seriously think that Leucy Kerastase just gave us a solution who will permit to contentate your (valid) concerns about QA/coding obligations, and the customers needs :

Make an option who will load the "old map" (or the "door" I never saw), all the time that the player is in a station. As long that it reduces GPU workload, anything is fine.
Scandal L
Machiavellian Empire
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#62 - 2016-06-16 19:43:32 UTC
CCP, I have a friend that didn't log in for weeks as his computer literally burn. I suspect this is the reason, as my computer started to restart due to overheating... and monitoring the temperatures I realized that are going high when I have my pilots docked.
Please bring this option back, Eve is not about staying in stations and looking at stupid rendering.
Okee Fenokee
Spontaneous Massive Existence Failure
#63 - 2016-07-08 17:40:21 UTC
By Jove, this is a crappy experience! My MacBook is toasting the air, with fans blowing, just because CCP refuses to introduce a static hangar backdrop picture? Mind you, it is not even summer yet, when the excess heat from my GPU will probably cause me to terminate the EVE client for good. There is even a setting you can use now -- "Dynamic Camera Movement" -- and I am sure you can guess that I turned this damn thing off. Just like I optimized my graphics settings for performance. And it is still crappy!
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
SONS of BANE
#64 - 2016-07-10 07:07:57 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:

That said, the hangar scenes are somewhat heavier than in-space scenes because you're surrounded by geometry which has physically-based-rendering shaders applied. Turning your shader quality to "Low" for a few clients might help.


The client is prettier certainly, but being docked really should not take up more CPU than being undocked. Taking a break from the game and docking up really should not lead me to concerns that my GPU will stress out while I am away. The unintended consequence is that people will log out when docked which will often lead them to not bother coming back to the game for longer stretches which means less players playing or being online.

I find I am less online because of this.

While it is good and well to push the graphics of the game onward, you cause problems for the EVE players who cannot keep up with the latest and greatest trends in hardware. While it may require a little extra step, an option that reduces the GPU while docked (as in: better than when undocked) would go a long way to keeping players from wondering if they can reasonably afford an computer upgrade to keep playing EVE.

Those of us who travel, myself included will thank you greatly. Those of us with laptops not designed for the highest end gaming will thank you. Our laptop's GPUs will thank you for not burning them out.

While it may be an inconvenience in QA to schedule a task, is ensuring your players can have reasonable expectations of enjoying the game for longer periods not worth it? The adverts are pretty, the interiors are pretty, but sometimes people just want to play the game.

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

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xXxNIMRODxXx
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
#65 - 2016-07-13 05:38:06 UTC
As a workaround, I try to dock the least possible now.
Neugeniko
Insight Securities
#66 - 2016-07-19 12:46:23 UTC
My experience has turned to **** since the introduction of hanger billboards. I'm down to 20mins a day, which is as much as I can stand of the clunky interface.
iooo1971a
Living Machines
#67 - 2016-07-19 17:05:14 UTC
IMO CCP doesn't understand the problem (or it don't want to understand it). There is not primarily problem with performance. There is problem with heating, fan noise and on notebooks with battery while sitting in station.

Jeb Ashimura
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2016-07-19 21:37:48 UTC
iooo1971a wrote:
IMO CCP doesn't understand the problem (or it don't want to understand it). There is not primarily problem with performance. There is problem with heating, fan noise and on notebooks with battery while sitting in station.


I'm pretty sure that CCP understands the problems caused by the dynamic hangar perfectly well. I believe that some designers or managers have a personal stake in this matter which causes them to ignore valid player complaints about waste of energy, heat and noise pollution. Otherwise a responsible person would come forth and say "let's offer the players an option to get rid of this useless, bloated, sci-fi themed virtual fishtank and have our graphics team work on useful stuff instead".
Tuffie Hawad
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2016-08-07 18:52:50 UTC
Jeb Ashimura wrote:
iooo1971a wrote:
IMO CCP doesn't understand the problem (or it don't want to understand it). There is not primarily problem with performance. There is problem with heating, fan noise and on notebooks with battery while sitting in station.


I'm pretty sure that CCP understands the problems caused by the dynamic hangar perfectly well. I believe that some designers or managers have a personal stake in this matter which causes them to ignore valid player complaints about waste of energy, heat and noise pollution. Otherwise a responsible person would come forth and say "let's offer the players an option to get rid of this useless, bloated, sci-fi themed virtual fishtank and have our graphics team work on useful stuff instead".


Back after a year and searching the Options for 10 minutes before google finds me this thread.
I am disgusted and angry...

I think EvilCCPEvil shove this down our throat is they want to sell Cosmetics and have a problem with noone seeing them.
My rig is top notch - thats not the matter - i want a clean desk for Ferengi Online...

The DirtDiver
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2016-08-08 00:44:45 UTC
+1 to this thread.

Sort it out CCP. No one cares about the pretty graphics in stations, we just want a way to have our computers be quiet for the 90% of our Eve playing time (i.e. in stations with multiple clients open)

Bring back the door, and stop making changes that are bad for large numbers of players for the benefit of your test team. They get paid to test, and ironically- it's us, the players, that pay them one way or another.
Xutel
Destiny Delivered
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#71 - 2016-08-10 18:29:59 UTC
+1

I feel like having a seizure with the new billboards, I hate it and assume it's a permanent thing so I would rather have a 2d bland blurry picture.

If not, please give an option for removing billboards and the pointless ship entering hangar animation.


Simple is best.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#72 - 2016-08-12 01:54:38 UTC
open the ship tree, should have the same effect as an option to turn off hangar rendering.

if you want to reduce load even further and you are a market trader or something similar, you could also lock the FPS with an external tool to 20-25. MSI afterburner can do that, tools like IS Boxer probably too. Putting your graphics card into power safe mode via the graphics driver is another option to reduce heat but the performance will go down significantly obviously.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value