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Resinball
Teh Hive Collective
Carebear News Network
#21 - 2016-02-26 23:37:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Resinball
thank ******* god... the chip manufacturers are even on board with this, which is even more reason to force an upgrade for an old dead systems with huge security holes. NO MORE SUB 10!!! HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong.

Thank you CCP For ending legacy device support.
Kamideus
Korprica
#22 - 2016-02-27 00:00:21 UTC
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:


Am I the only one with Mac troubles? Or does this mean I have to poke you for the next four months with said bugs (crashes, disconnects and 30-50 second freezes) to try to revert to MacOS before XP finally closes shop?

Yes I'm willing to put it in debug mode for your benefit if only I knew how. Anybody willing to look into the matter?


I've experienced the freezes quite a bit since the November 2015 patch. I've had to force quit EVE at least once a day since then...
When you force quit an application you are also bypassing the auto crash report tool so this is a problem. It would be nice to see some love given to the mac community once again. Although percentage of Mac players is probably small I would assume, and the general attitude towards such a small percentage of players probably doesn't warrant immediate attention.

I'm not API proficient enough to use Numbers (Apples spreadsheet app) but would be nice, at the very least be able to easily find an exported file from the game. Yes, I have looked up this issue in the forums and the information there is no longer relevant with the OS changes since then. Pretty sad that most of the post are relevant to older OS X versions. Using El Capitan my self. But it goes to show how long it's been since the Mac community has seen the love.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#23 - 2016-02-27 00:04:44 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
CCP Tellus wrote:
Can we finally upgrade from Visual Studio 2010? Big smile

Vim, make, csh, gdb, gcc. What more could one need?

Valgrind.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#24 - 2016-02-27 00:34:32 UTC
Quote:
You will have 4 months until we remove the old EVE Launcher access on June 30th 2016.


Ok, now, look at something cool...like my petition history. Mainly my most recent one with how the new launcher keeps on crashing for no bloody reason...


...did you read my petition history?


For all of those without GM/Dev access to my account.

TL:DR...

I recently made the hop over to the new launcher. With a freshly installed OS, with up to date drivers and everything. This PC is only used for gaming, (mainly EVE) and about 4 websites. I don't even go on the interwebs on this thing. Just Steam and EVE!

So, when I installed the New launcher, it keeps on crashing, it doesn't even generate crash reports. A few weeks of back and forth between CCP tech support, I get a "Yeah, I dunno what to say" final message. The only way I can play EVE is the old launcher.

So, now what am I suppose to do?

...
CCP Vertex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#25 - 2016-02-27 01:09:43 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Quote:
You will have 4 months until we remove the old EVE Launcher access on June 30th 2016.


Ok, now, look at something cool...like my petition history. Mainly my most recent one with how the new launcher keeps on crashing for no bloody reason...


...did you read my petition history?


For all of those without GM/Dev access to my account.

TL:DR...

I recently made the hop over to the new launcher. With a freshly installed OS, with up to date drivers and everything. This PC is only used for gaming, (mainly EVE) and about 4 websites. I don't even go on the interwebs on this thing. Just Steam and EVE!

So, when I installed the New launcher, it keeps on crashing, it doesn't even generate crash reports. A few weeks of back and forth between CCP tech support, I get a "Yeah, I dunno what to say" final message. The only way I can play EVE is the old launcher.

So, now what am I suppose to do?


I have sent a mail to the team handling the new launcher, I am confident that if they are not already aware of the issue you are having they will be in contact to find out more. :)

**CCP Vertex  |  Senior Development Manager ** | @CCP_Vertex
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#26 - 2016-02-27 08:16:14 UTC
Resinball wrote:
IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong.

Not everyone wants to put up with that ****. UI ****, system **** and it's pretty much the biggest privacy nightmare on this planet.
I'll stick with 7 (used exclusively for gaming and without all these "critical" telemetry / anti-privacy updates) until EVE stops supporting it. And when that happens I'll either find a decent alternative that I can get along with (Wine isn't one... I won't cripple GodsOS with that **** and won't put up with the security nightmare) or stop playing EVE.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#27 - 2016-02-27 10:57:50 UTC
Overdue
Lord Vyper
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2016-02-27 11:32:22 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Resinball wrote:
IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong.

Not everyone wants to put up with that ****. UI ****, system **** and it's pretty much the biggest privacy nightmare on this planet.
I'll stick with 7 (used exclusively for gaming and without all these "critical" telemetry / anti-privacy updates) until EVE stops supporting it. And when that happens I'll either find a decent alternative that I can get along with (Wine isn't one... I won't cripple GodsOS with that **** and won't put up with the security nightmare) or stop playing EVE.



Haha your privacy is an illustion
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#29 - 2016-02-27 11:50:05 UTC
Lord Vyper wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:
Resinball wrote:
IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong.

Not everyone wants to put up with that ****. UI ****, system **** and it's pretty much the biggest privacy nightmare on this planet.
I'll stick with 7 (used exclusively for gaming and without all these "critical" telemetry / anti-privacy updates) until EVE stops supporting it. And when that happens I'll either find a decent alternative that I can get along with (Wine isn't one... I won't cripple GodsOS with that **** and won't put up with the security nightmare) or stop playing EVE.



Haha your privacy is an illustion

What's an illustion?

But anyway. I've forgotten far more about IT security and cryptography than about 99.99% of currently breathing humans will ever know about it. I also do not live in the US and do know how to protect my privacy and keep myself anonymous.

It may be an illusion for you and the majority of others, but not for me. I do not only care, I also have the knowledge to keep it the way I like it.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2016-02-27 13:07:07 UTC
Cat Harkness wrote:
I can understand XP, but why would ANYONE still be using VIsta?????????????????????


Some people still believe rickrolling is a thing and still use AOL and/or dial-up.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Demolishar
United Aggression
#31 - 2016-02-27 15:23:03 UTC
How about an OS for PLEX offer.
CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
#32 - 2016-02-27 17:52:51 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Quote:
You will have 4 months until we remove the old EVE Launcher access on June 30th 2016.


Ok, now, look at something cool...like my petition history. Mainly my most recent one with how the new launcher keeps on crashing for no bloody reason...


...did you read my petition history?


For all of those without GM/Dev access to my account.

TL:DR...

I recently made the hop over to the new launcher. With a freshly installed OS, with up to date drivers and everything. This PC is only used for gaming, (mainly EVE) and about 4 websites. I don't even go on the interwebs on this thing. Just Steam and EVE!

So, when I installed the New launcher, it keeps on crashing, it doesn't even generate crash reports. A few weeks of back and forth between CCP tech support, I get a "Yeah, I dunno what to say" final message. The only way I can play EVE is the old launcher.

So, now what am I suppose to do?

I'm sorry to hear of your launcher troubles and want to work with you to resolve this. I'll check with support on Monday to see your petition history and will be in touch over EVE mail. Please don't give up on us yet - we have plenty of time before support for the old launcher runs out and I'm confident we can sort this out.

CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2016-02-27 20:11:05 UTC
Great, an ultimatum: let Microsoft spy on you or else we will not let you connect and play EVE.

It kind of suprises me that CCP is willing to lose subscriptions over this.

It's comical that average person imagines Windows 8 or 10 to be more secure than XP. I bet they think their iPhone is more secure than an old AT&T handset, too.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#34 - 2016-02-27 20:42:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Cygnet Lythanea
Linus Gorp wrote:

Not everyone wants to put up with that ****. UI ****, system **** and it's pretty much the biggest privacy nightmare on this planet.
I'll stick with 7 (used exclusively for gaming and without all these "critical" telemetry / anti-privacy updates) until EVE stops supporting it. And when that happens I'll either find a decent alternative that I can get along with... or stop playing EVE.


Amen, Sister.

I hate to say it, but I'd rather gargle battery acid that take the 'free' update to Microsoft's Windows 10 'Service' (It's not an OS, it's a 'Service'. It says so right in the EULA)

For a variety of reasons.

Frankly though the sun-setting of XP is a laugh, as it's still one of the most widespread OS out there, despite M$ best efforts. I grant it's not used for gaming much outside retro games, buit one of the long time draws (and the reason I got interested in EvE back in the beginning) was that it could pretty much run on anything.

So, let me ask, Devs, how long before you stop all Windows support entirely and try and force a move to Android?
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#35 - 2016-02-27 20:45:53 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
So, let me ask, Devs, how long before you stop all Windows support entirely and try and force a move to Android?

From one closed-down privacy nightmare ecosystem to the next?

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#36 - 2016-02-27 21:03:55 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:

From one closed-down privacy nightmare ecosystem to the next?


They do seem to want to see how deep the Rabbit Hole goes, and android devices do outnumber windows ones...
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#37 - 2016-02-27 21:46:08 UTC
Oh noes, my OS has telemetry, the sky is falling because reasons. Also Reddit told me it was bad and I believe things I read on the internet.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#38 - 2016-02-27 22:42:19 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Oh noes, my OS has telemetry, the sky is falling because reasons. Also Reddit told me it was bad and I believe things I read on the internet.


As many of your fellow goons as have jobs with my employer, I wouldn't think that you'd need 'why telemetry is bad' explained to you by Reddit.
Sarmatiko
#39 - 2016-02-28 02:08:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Linus Gorp wrote:

What's an illustion?

But anyway. I've forgotten far more about IT security and cryptography than about 99.99% of currently breathing humans will ever know about it. I also do not live in the US and do know how to protect my privacy and keep myself anonymous.

It may be an illusion for you and the majority of others, but not for me. I do not only care, I also have the knowledge to keep it the way I like it.

Windows 7 have bunch of tracking services for quite some time already. Of course you can say "I'm smart and just skipped those updates" but then what stops you from disabling tracking services in W10 in one click (there are plenty of tools)?

If you use Internet, use mail services, own any iOS\Android device - your privacy was violated many times already. Just relax and enjoy living the paranoia-free life Bear
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2016-02-28 14:03:22 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:

What's an illustion?

But anyway. I've forgotten far more about IT security and cryptography than about 99.99% of currently breathing humans will ever know about it. I also do not live in the US and do know how to protect my privacy and keep myself anonymous.

It may be an illusion for you and the majority of others, but not for me. I do not only care, I also have the knowledge to keep it the way I like it.

Windows 7 have bunch of tracking services for quite some time already. Of course you can say "I'm smart and just skipped those updates" but then what stops you from disabling tracking services in W10 in one click (there are plenty of tools)?

If you use Internet, use mail services, own any iOS\Android device - your privacy was violated many times already. Just relax and enjoy living the paranoia-free life Bear


The ones who go to the concentration camps first are the ones they know the most about, but don't worry because the world is at peace and that will last forever.