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FACTION STANDING REPAIR PLAN ('The Plan')

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#381 - 2016-02-12 00:48:02 UTC
Cai Shen,

That's excellent news. I look forward to seeing it when it's completed.


DMC

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Sentenced 1989
#382 - 2016-02-13 12:27:09 UTC
Since my domain is still down and new website still hasn't been finished, you can use source json file for all information about epic arcs

Epic Arcs Source JSON

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#383 - 2016-02-13 12:33:54 UTC
Sentenced 1989,

Thanks for the info and posting the link.



DMC

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Cai Shen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#384 - 2016-02-24 19:50:17 UTC
Im still in the process of screenshotting and recording standings increased as I progress through the minny cosmos.

I noticed a post awhile ago of someone trying to figure out derived standings mechanics and I find myself in a similar conundrum.

I was looking at the chart for derived standings at http://www.newedenlibrary.net/eon/faction_standings.shtml and I understand the top relationship chart since that shows the max that 1 empire can bring another, for instance in my case minny can bring gal to a max of 8.

But what is the deal with the inter-faction standings modifier? Does that go into the math on figuring out the change in the derived standings?

Also let me just say the missions in audesder are no frigging joke lol, being low sec I needed to use a cloaky ship or bring in protection but you almost need a bs just to break a few of the npcs tanks lol.
Sentenced 1989
#385 - 2016-02-25 10:58:08 UTC
Cai Shen wrote:

I was looking at the chart for derived standings at http://www.newedenlibrary.net/eon/faction_standings.shtml and I understand the top relationship chart since that shows the max that 1 empire can bring another, for instance in my case minny can bring gal to a max of 8.


That is not how it works afaik, it only means that minnie and gallente like each other, so assuming you have 10.0 with minnie and 8.5 with gallente, you could still increase gallente by running minnie missions

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Cai Shen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#386 - 2016-02-26 02:31:06 UTC
Holy Crap... I finished the last Ison mission in the cosmos missions....

Just a tip to anyone who tries them, do NOT assume your tengu can tank it cause you have a massive tank lol

I have a blingy fit tengu I ran out there with, not as much dps as I usually have cause I did cloaky for all but the biggest ships, I had a mobile depot with me and stayed cloaky more than not cause lots of ppl were pulling out the probes so I was paranoid.

But anyway, that didnt mess with my tank I was running with a Pith A type Large as well as a pith a type amp and similar adaptive fields... II also have a set of HG crystals + Omega...

On warp in I had a warp scrambler on me in seconds as well as webs, i figured no biggy, so I set up my orbit etc and before I finished targetting my first npc I was at 1/2 shield.

SO I go to oh **** mode, luckily I targetted the warp scrambler first so I overheated shield booster, Overheated all the guns and I hit approach the sun... I killed the npc and warped out at 5% structure.

So I can not overstate this... do not depend on your tank lol.



My next run I threw this char into an inty, and while I did lose it once, my 2nd attempt worked. Warp into the room and burn like hell, I then waited till I dragged the ewar guys well out of the warp in point and brought in my tengu.

the difference between where I dragged them and the warp in was enough that I was able to get my tengu up to speed, and kill the ewar fkers before they could get to me. After they were gone it was easy since I was at a decent speed and my tank could easily handle t hat.


so just be careful on that mission lol.


tl;dr: That mission is rough.


My standings since doing only the minny cosmos... I did not hand in the low sec turnin for the gal mission.

minny standing: 8.42 unmodified. and gal standing is 7.7
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#387 - 2016-02-26 05:59:05 UTC
Cai Shen,

Gratz on completing the Minmatar Cosmos Agents. Good info about the low sec Agent missions, definitely is a tough one.

Thanks for sharing and much success on your next venture.


DMC

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Xiaou Bijoun
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#388 - 2016-03-02 23:39:00 UTC
So, I just found out about 'the plan' and need to repair my Gallente standing so I can resume hauling safely in their space. Unfortunately they removed Evelopedia on the 29th of February and I cannot access the link. Is it stored somewhere else?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#389 - 2016-03-04 06:18:17 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Xiaou Bijoun wrote:
So, I just found out about 'the plan' and need to repair my Gallente standing so I can resume hauling safely in their space. Unfortunately they removed Evelopedia on the 29th of February and I cannot access the link. Is it stored somewhere else?

Shocked

WTF ?

CCP has gotta be out of their frackin' minds to discontinue Evelopedia. And on top of that they announce it only 4 days prior to removing it. Definitely should have gave us at least a one month advance notice. Granted the Evelopedia wasn't the best wiki available but it did contain a lot of valuable info guides.

Anyway, I jumped into the Wayback Machine and pulled up a copy of 'The Plan.

Faction Standing Repair Plan

That link is now in the original post of this thread. Hopefully it works for you.




DMC

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Z'ar Drakken
Starlight Industries .co
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#390 - 2016-03-31 23:44:04 UTC
Hello and thanks for the "Plan"
As english is not my first language please forgive me for any errors in my spelling.

My Current Standing with the

Minmatar Republic is -8.35(Want to Fix)

Gallente Federation is -9.25(Want to Fix)

I Want to fix these so i can Enter and Exit there space without the Faction police shooting me.
I plan on living in and around the Rens Area.

What do you recommend?
I have Skill injectors ready for Diplomacy 5

pls and thank you!
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#391 - 2016-04-01 01:50:22 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Z'ar Drakken,

Thanks for posting. Having -8.35 with Minmatar and -9.25 with Gallente is pretty bad but it can be fixed. Course doing that will lower your Amarr and Caldari standing which I imagine is fairly high. Don't despair, you can still have positive standing with all 4 main Factions. It's just gonna take some time to get the standings up.

First thing to do is definitely train Diplomacy Lv 5 and then train Social Lv 5 next followed with Connections. While those are training, you're gonna have to grind some Lv 1 missions for a Minmatar corp located in Amarr or Caldari space to get Storyline missions. When your Minmatar Faction standing get's above -5.00 standing (-4.99 or higher), you can then safely enter Minmater space and work the Minmatar Event Agents listed in 'The Plan'.

Basically you'll work the Minmatar Career Agents, then their Circle Agents, followed by their Data Center Agents. If needed you can also work their Cosmos Agents. While doing that, keep watch on Gallente Faction standing and when it get's above -5.00 standing (-4.99 or higher), you can then start working the Gallente Event Agents too. Also don't forget about the Lv 1 SoE Epic Arc.

To fast track gaining positive standing, when you're finally able to safely enter Minmatar space, just work the Data Center Agents. It takes a long time to find the requested amount of Tags so just buy the Tags from the Market.

Remember, be prepared and have the necessary items first before contacting the Event Agents.

Hope this helps and good luck to you.


DMC

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Z'ar Drakken
Starlight Industries .co
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#392 - 2016-04-01 03:30:10 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Z'ar Drakken,

Thanks for posting. Having -8.35 with Minmatar and -9.25 with Gallente is pretty bad but it can be fixed. Course doing that will lower your Amarr and Caldari standing which I imagine is fairly high. Don't despair, you can still have positive standing with all 4 main Factions. It's just gonna take some time to get the standings up.

First thing to do is definitely train Diplomacy Lv 5 and then train Social Lv 5 next followed with Connections. While those are training, you're gonna have to grind some Lv 1 missions for a Minmatar corp located in Amarr or Caldari space to get Storyline missions. When your Minmatar Faction standing get's above -5.00 standing (-4.99 or higher), you can then safely enter Minmater space and work the Minmatar Event Agents listed in 'The Plan'.

Basically you'll work the Minmatar Career Agents, then their Circle Agents, followed by their Data Center Agents. If needed you can also work their Cosmos Agents. While doing that, keep watch on Gallente Faction standing and when it get's above -5.00 standing (-4.99 or higher), you can then start working the Gallente Event Agents too. Also don't forget about the Lv 1 SoE Epic Arc.

To fast track gaining positive standing, when you're finally able to safely enter Minmatar space, just work the Data Center Agents. It takes a long time to find the requested amount of Tags so just buy the Tags from the Market.

Remember, be prepared and have the necessary items first before contacting the Event Agents.

Hope this helps and good luck to you.


DMC

thank you. Actually now that I see my standings my Angel Cartel and The Syndicate seem to be the only ones high(5.00+)
Caldari state is +0.03 and well Amarr is -0.86
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#393 - 2016-04-01 05:02:22 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Ok, so basically you want access to all 4 main Factions space.

Just do what I already posted - train up Diplomacy, Social and Connection skills while grinding Lv 1 missions (Distribution missions can be completed very quickly) for Storyline offers with Minmatar corp located in Amarr or Caldari space - raise Minmatar Faction standing above -5.00 for access to their space and then start working their Lv 1 Event Agents.

However while doing that keep an eye on Amarr Faction standing and don't let it get to -5.00 or lower. When Minmatar and Amarr Faction standing become or are close to being equal (both will probably still have negative standing), start bouncing back and forth between them.

In other words, complete an Event Agent for Minmatar and then complete an Event Agent for Amarr, then back to Minmatar, and so forth. You want to bring them both up pretty much at the same time.

After working Minmatar and Amarr Lv 1 Event Agents, you should be able to access Gallente and Caldari Lv 1 Event Agents. Do the same thing with them, bounce back and forth between them, bringing both of those Factions up together. Then do the same with Lv 2 Event Agents (Minmatar & Amarr / Gallente & Caldari), then Lv 3, then Lv 4 or until you get the Faction standings up to where you want them to be.

If you have plenty of ISK, by the time you complete all of the Data Center Agents, all 4 Factions should have good positive standings. I doubt you'll need to access any Cosmos Agents.

While working the Data Center Agents, you might get stuck and not have enough Faction standing to access the next level Agent, if so just grind some Distribution missions with that Agents Corp for some Storyline offers.

Please keep us updated on your progress and good luck to you.


DMC

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Z'ar Drakken
Starlight Industries .co
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#394 - 2016-04-07 21:49:14 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Ok, so basically you want access to all 4 main Factions space.

Just do what I already posted - train up Diplomacy, Social and Connection skills while grinding Lv 1 missions (Distribution missions can be completed very quickly) for Storyline offers with Minmatar corp located in Amarr or Caldari space - raise Minmatar Faction standing above -5.00 for access to their space and then start working their Lv 1 Event Agents.

However while doing that keep an eye on Amarr Faction standing and don't let it get to -5.00 or lower. When Minmatar and Amarr Faction standing become or are close to being equal (both will probably still have negative standing), start bouncing back and forth between them.

In other words, complete an Event Agent for Minmatar and then complete an Event Agent for Amarr, then back to Minmatar, and so forth. You want to bring them both up pretty much at the same time.

After working Minmatar and Amarr Lv 1 Event Agents, you should be able to access Gallente and Caldari Lv 1 Event Agents. Do the same thing with them, bounce back and forth between them, bringing both of those Factions up together. Then do the same with Lv 2 Event Agents (Minmatar & Amarr / Gallente & Caldari), then Lv 3, then Lv 4 or until you get the Faction standings up to where you want them to be.

If you have plenty of ISK, by the time you complete all of the Data Center Agents, all 4 Factions should have good positive standings. I doubt you'll need to access any Cosmos Agents.

While working the Data Center Agents, you might get stuck and not have enough Faction standing to access the next level Agent, if so just grind some Distribution missions with that Agents Corp for some Storyline offers.

Please keep us updated on your progress and good luck to you.


DMC

Thanks I've injected Diplomacy 5 and connection 5 social 5 etc.. and worked on level ones and career agents and data center agents thanks! Also what can cause standing to decrease (i know missioning/FW/Killing NPC) but what other activities can lower the standing?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#395 - 2016-04-08 00:21:04 UTC
Z'ar Drakken wrote:

Thanks I've injected Diplomacy 5 and connection 5 social 5 etc.. and worked on level ones and career agents and data center agents thanks! Also what can cause standing to decrease (i know missioning/FW/Killing NPC) but what other activities can lower the standing?


As for losing standing, other than what you already mentioned attacking and destroying structures owned by NPC's will also cause you to lose standing.

Anyway, sounds like you got it handled. Hope you have good luck and much success.



DMC

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#396 - 2016-04-28 14:46:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Countless capsuleers saved from the punishing NPC militias, myself included. Hip Hip Hooray! for the plan and its creator. \o/

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ᴏsᴘʀᴇʏ 🚀

≡⋁≡ ♥
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#397 - 2016-04-30 08:04:43 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Countless capsuleers saved from the punishing NPC militias, myself included. Hip Hip Hooray! for the plan and its creator. \o/

Big smile

Nana Skalski,

Thank you very much for posting. I'm glad to know 'The Plan' has helped you and countless other capsuleers.

Hopefully it will endure and continue to help others in the future.



DMC

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Aurelius Oshidashi
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#398 - 2016-06-09 19:27:32 UTC
Thanks so much for making The Plan. I'm going to start working on it this weekend. While glancing over this topic, you got me much impressed with your dedicated help to everyone for over a period of years. Hail to you DeMichael Crimson!

Just to let you know, the link to the plan in your initial post leads to a blank page, but thankfully the link posted in your comment from March does work. However, folks might miss that, so you maybe want to update your initial post.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#399 - 2016-06-12 03:46:20 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Aurelius Oshidashi,

Thanks for the compliment. I hope you have much success and good luck working 'The Plan'.

As for the link in the original post of this thread not working, I checked it and it still leads to the Evelopedia page via The Wayback Machine. Maybe you had a glitch while trying to access it.

Anyway, thanks for posting and again, good luck to you.


DMC

EDIT:

It's been brought to my attention that some people may just left click the links and then click the pop up message 'Leaving Eve Online'. Doing that leads to a blank page. To help others view 'The Plan', I've now added this phrase to the OP :
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Sentenced 1989
#400 - 2016-06-24 08:50:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentenced 1989
So, after getting the initial info about epic arc from the plan, doing some parts of it, I've managed to get all 4 major factions over 8.00

Current state (without connections skills applied)

Amarr Empire 8.74
Caldari State 8.08
Minmatar Republic 8.01
Gallente Federation 7.94

Gallente will cross 8.00 in few hours.

DMC, thx for the idea, even though it took over 4 years to reach this state.

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