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But anyone could get 9 friends, therefore it is totally fair since any player could just recruit 9 guys...

But wait! I don't have any friends because i'm an *******! Now it's unfair again!

BUT WAIT! I can now LEGALLY multi-box 9 more dudes in pvp since that makes it fair again.

Or something **** I dunno.

Why not help us all by telling us what is illegal and what not, even if its just 'in your experience'?

I understand the legal stuff needs to be vague to cast as wide a net as possible, but 'unfair advantage' is too vague, surely!?

As others have mentioned, some might consider owning two accounts to be unfair, but I'm sure CCP appreciates the additional income.



Ok I tried, but the link to EULA in the dev blog is broken...

Help us understand! You says it's what we are doing with the program that's important, tell us what actions are illegal and what are not!

I'm sorry but nothing of value was answered here. You just added more questions than you answered.

Bit the bullet and give us a white-list of 3rd party programs that are allowed because with this wording, anything that manages your eve windows is bannable.

HINT: Windows 10 has windows management built in, so by the absolute letter of this blog, those who use multiple clients on multiple screens one Windows 10 (or wine/linus while we are at it), should be banned.

You have basically just told us that the last "legal" feature of isoboxer (window management) is no longer valid, but you have not told us if the program is valid.


DO NOT TELL US JUST TO FILE A PETITION: The petition system does not work for something like this. You tell multiple people different things to the same question. Then those who did get an answer cannot share that fact because you will ban them.

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There are lots of third party programs that can be used in lots of different ways. If you want my opinion you need to give an example.

I will give one from earlier in the thread though. IsBoxer is mention alot and most of it is already covered re; multi-casting etc. In regards to its window management though. It is ok to use to have multiple accounts on the one screen. If you use it to cut out specific sections of a client ie; an overview and then overlay that on top of another client, that violates the EULA.

Petitioning a GM is a good idea but you need to be specific. Just asking if x program is ok will get you a copy/paste of the EULA.

Viewing markets in multiple regions at once.

Ah but you say, evecentral....

No you do not clarify, unfortunatelly. Theres just an mention on being a) 'fair to everyone' and b) 'enforced at our own discretion'. Both of those comes highly subjected to one's judgement and hence not standardized and at constant change.

One of the most appealing things about EVE is to play the way one player likes it to be.

Why not, instead of tossing up random rules and worsening everyone's gameplay you guys don't team up to make the game actually more enjoyable? Its not wise to do that to a game with aging (but loyal) playerbase.

Then there are so many products here on the forum you can download from players that has always been breaking the EULA.
I can do the same thing with six clients in windowed mode, and just maximize it when something of interest comes on the overview.

There are 2 problems with this (again two, hehe, there're always two):
1. It's really difficult to implement. I.e. in linux (+wine ofc) it's not always even possible at all to detect whether window is active or not.
2. If only 1 client can be rendered at once then there will be no reason to have 2 monitors for EVE. -1 point to karma

Offtopic: heh man when/if accounts get banned I'll at last complete this game and can go on next one :))))

You know with the emphasis on alts and all this grey area stuff why don't you just toss out an "official" client manager.