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What if I'm poor and can't afford a 70mil (or whatever they are now) web? :<

1 of those 2 faction modules better be imperial navy issue. imp navy hasnt gotten anything this go around.

Why are you flying a battleship then

Then it won't matter if you lose it because you are too cheap to fit it properly. 😜

Any update on these? (didn't feel like sifting through 15 pages of responses)

So I have been brainstorming to try and make this new idea more useful at its intended goal which is to make solo and small gang BS/Cap ships more viable without making them into solo omnipwn mobiles that wipe the field the moment they show up

to start lets go over real quick what the problems that BS and caps face atm

- Hard applying DPS to smaller targets, (current description helps with this slightly)
- ****** locking times on anything smaller then a BC/BS
- Poor align times/ warp speed (a much more fixable Problem due to Rig/Implant Options)

So the current description of the Heavy Grappler is a Single target high strength web with Vindicator lvls of strength at close range that gets weaker the farther away the target gets.

Initial problems with this idea are that any small targets that are being piloted with any sort of skill or long range fit won’t ever get anywhere close enough to be effected by this new Module and faction webs will be more effective a majority of the time.
The other problems are this doesn’t do anything to increase the lock speed of the BS/Cap to be able to actually engage something smaller then it, and sense it’s going to take a midslot it will prevent the BS/Cap from fitting more SEBO’s to achieve a reasonable lock time

First off make the optimal something like 3-4 Km that way when overheated it can actually get some reasonable range, second make it an AOE effect, this will prevent it from strait up just making the Serpentis/Vindicator Bonus a useless gimmick. Third give it a bonus to Scan res while active equivalent to 1 Sebo.

These changes make it an actual unique Module that will make Solo/Small gang Battleship fleets be able to control the fight against gangs of more traditional Fleet setups

Making it an AOE will secure its place as a solo/Small gang Utility mod that will give them some much needed control over a fight if the opponents are set up for close range or if they **** up on their positioning. It also gives the Pilot using the Grappler dynamic choices he needs to think about while using it.

for instance fleets having large amounts of these things fit could very well screw over anything in its own gang that needs to maintain high speed to be effective, and other interesting effects Slowing Down incoming bombs or even Enemy/ Friendly Drones

Discuss!

Actually I don't think AOE is a good idea since that will likely screw over friendly ships in the vicinity, plus make the module unusable in low/highsec where AOE is mostly forbidden (exceptions noted). However, if we made the module a high-slot weapon, so it could compete with neuts in that spare highslot space, we could have an interesting conversation there.

Plus, if we're going to combine functions, I'd rather have it combined with a target painter effect equal to the grapple effect and falloff, so that battleships can really start to lay down the hurt on the target.

It affecting friendlies in an AoE would immediately give rise to instawarping BS fleets, so let's stay away from that line of thought.
I do feel the numbers are kinda low, so a faction web is a better idea than this new mod in most situations. If CCP are already making it BS-only, there would be no harm in giving it some more punch, a longer, shallower, effectiveness curve, or both.

why don't just to buff a sigres of large guns and be done with it? No, we gonna add a mod, that you have no midslot to fit, and it will not help in the job regardless., because it has no range.

You know what might have been - Better - a module like a "shield boost amplifier"

"Pulsed web stasis amplifier" .. "can only be fit on battleships capitals and command ships" or whatever


it takes a truck load of cap while it pulses and the range and strength of a web can be boosted to whatever level works out not to be too oppressive but makes battleships scary for tackle.

it will eventually cap you out so using with skill will be very important, this way you can also invest in FED WEBS really skilled tackle can dip in out to play out your cap / cycles just like they do with Rapid Launchers.

it will take an extra slot and RIP your cap, but if you need a few seconds to blap a frigate/cruiser and GTFO you enable it, or if your like i'm not making it out of here.... you can hit something shiny for full DPS for a few seconds :) and die a glorious death while stomping that garmur or whatever

Having it use alot of cap also means it will be like a 3 slot setup WEB/CAP BOOSTER/AMPLIFIER and will contest cap resource with neuts / local reps. This should help balance it.

Possibly a cool down so you can't park a battery feeding augror with it at a gate camp.


I think this will add to gameplay without being a "jesus module" tackle ship pilots can co-ordinate and say how much more time do you think he can boost his webs etc, just like an ASB.

the skill can also come from the BS pilot when in fleets co-ordinating with other large calibre weapon ships to slow something down for the duration of like 1 or two artillery cycles


Counter-able with strong or distributed neuting power also, leaving it not too stupid.