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our virtual goods strategy for EVE Online will remain limited in scope and focus on vanity items, or as we said after the CSM visit this summer: The investment of money in EVE should not give you an unfair advantage over the investment of time
So every single aspect of eve is now monetized, that statement means nothing he even had a lackey write it. He has no integrity neither does CCP as a whole. since the original crew have all but departed your left with the crap to keep on eking out every single penny they can and try to sell it as what everyone wanted.

Even if 99% of the player base refused to use it but the 1% did the whole game now is based around real world transactions to progress, what ever way you paint it the original eve is over now. All this will draw to it is wallet warriors and maybe some ex trialer come to see what its about. There is nothing to work towards anymore, time is irrelevant when you can pay to jump into anything buy anything basically do anything its like being given the /giveall command so long as you get your CC out.

When you don't have to do anything to get everything what is the point of even starting. Remember the old cartoon about eve's learning curve guy looking up a cliff, the new joke one now is sitting in a titan waving a credit card with him shouting 1 day old. The game has gone from having the reputation of being the harshest pvp game out there to flexing a card gets you anything and you'll be lucky to bump into a player out of the main hubs. In such a short space of time its gone from having a good rep for being a hard game to master to almost jokes about how lame its become.

General consensus carries weight and what's being written in forums in alot of places now is that its just gone p2w all stemming from ironbanks stunt.

This is definitely eve. The responses are as expected, both in the market and in the forums.

Allow me to ask then, back when those words were uttered:

Did you question their intent with PLEX and the Bazaar and how they violate the letter of the written promise at the same moment and even before and clarify what was meant?
Did you notice from PLEX, the Bazaar, Power of 2 promotions and later MCTCs that they were never shy about selling time or training and further allowing us to trade it?
Did you notice how that effective monetization of SP already existed?
Did you not notice that those "vanity items" were still an effective vector for isk?
Did you think that the leap from forum sold GTCs to PLEX would never possibly be replicated in any form with the Bazaar and SP?

I ask because for someone who speaks of integrity, it seems you're doing so with an idealistic and less than real view of the past. One where CCP didn't promote and profit from RMT and character trades as a means to bypass isk earning and training. One where they weren't doing it while making promises that according to you would have prevented it. We in our relative silence effectively confirmed that selling time between each other was fine. They just took our word on it.

Now you're are trying to put the genie back in the bottle and pretend this is some new sort of evil. It isn't, it's admittedly less limited to those specifically in the know about it, but I find that higher accessibility preferable to more exclusive advantages.

We were always based around real world transactions. That's what subs are regardless of whether the end user partook in that step. And "based around" is entirely deceptive even in the sense you mean it since all SP is sourced the same way it always has been, making progress based on and dependent upon traditional skill training.

As for what the point is? Leaving aside the fact that the "shortcuts" only work as a direct result of other players finding a point, as has always been the case, isn't the point to determine that point yourself? No one specifically themselves needs to earn isk so long as someone else who buys PLEX is still doing it, but enough people still earn their isk AND demand PLEX to raise and hold the price at and now slightly above 1.2B.

What's funny about the rep though, is that it's no more true than it ever was, but with individuals like yourself regurgitating the same talking points it's no wonder it's the belief being spread. Fact is the perception is controllable most by players and when they go out of their way to whine about everything that's the perception that the outside world sticks with for lack of knowing enough to determine for themselves. The story largely gets interpreted as "CCP sells SP" but when I actually explain it to non-players they go from thinking "money grab" to "that's pretty clever" with some understanding of the skill system and how the origin of SP is unchanged.

For those who know, ironbank is nothing more than a non-gameplay affecting publicity stunt.

I respectfully disagree. Clone upgrades made an ever increasing ammount of SP on one character be a matter of "risk vs reward", where as, currently, there is no argument to limit the SP on a single toon in any way. Additionally, supers and titans have always been considered coffins, because once you got into one, you never got out (under normal circumstances anyway) until you died. In other words, that particular toon was locked, being useful for nothing other then flying that one ship. Citadels unlock the option to use whatever ship a super or titan pilot can fly without loosing the super or titan. Therefor, both changes reduce the need for multiple accounts (in my oppinion).

It is true that each inividual point by itself does not contribute a whole lot to this effect. Subscriptions have been in decline for a while now, and i would have expected to see changes that, in the long term would increase subscriptions. It makes me sad to, instead, see changes that would increase CCP's revenue for a short period of time, only.

PvE in EVE is ... underwhelming. Skill training is slow. Instead of making PvE richer and more diverse and skill training for new players faster, CCP added a "Pay 2 Skip Boring Grind" option.

A classic F2P monetization strategy.

February 17, the 9th was only a prelude.
Having more money than the next guy

Can you all feel CCP's grip on your credit card getting tighter.,.

Which veterans are you talking about? All of them?
Perhaps you mean the ones that sit down with their time and teach new players how to play the game?
The one that make tutorials?
The ones that help for free and let new players go on their merry way to find their fun in the game?

Do you think it sounds like those veterans?

Perhaps you mean the veterans that farm new players to pad their killboards?
Now, those sort of veterans, yes, I have seen quite a few of them. They tend to be cold, calculating and squeeze everything out of everywhere. Strangely enough they also have a lot of alts and they wouldn't care about their creations. Bottom lines matter and what ever goal they have set themselves.

Try using a teaspoon rather than a shovel when you apply the tar, please.

This just gets better all the time, remember the original blog from Rise
Now we have there new advert saying :
Skill Extractors.
Skill Extractors allow you to extract skillpoints from your character, which is great whenever you want to respec your skills, customize your skill tree or make some ISK. These skillpoints are loaded into a Skill Injector which can then be sold or traded to other players on the in-game marketplace.

So what actually is it, you don't want to be able to respec easily or you can as long as it involves the trusty flexible friend.

Does kind of make you wonder if the dev's - marketing - customer support talk to each other.

Dev's - well if we try to make it sound like its for the good of X it will lessen the burden on us for Y

Marketing - Its my precious .... we wants all your money ..... give give give precious money.

Customer Support - Oh crap here we go again !!!

Red Faces all round. Please Ty drop a wisdom bomb on this one