EVE General Discussion

The only solution Id come up with is this.... simply a chance to fail on new disruptors and scrams.


New skill Advanced Propulsion Jamming maybe a 5% bonus per level to success

New disruptors with +2 scram strength but DONT act like scrams do now so no shutting off MWDs but a range reduction. Say 15kms for T2, meta and T1 are lower and faction/DED/officer are more up to about 20kms Id say.

New scrams with +3 natural but range is 7.5kms for T2 with same spread.


The newness is that like ECM there is a chance to fail on every cycle and a failing cycle shuts the module off. This means that you have to reengage it after each failure providing not only RNG limits but human error in combat as well on top of it. Cycle times would be shortened to say 5s each so it would just simply be a module youd have to micromanage in combat.


Downsides: Why use it at all? All combat or PVE ships for the most part dont carry warp stabs anyways. A single point will usually hold them and it will never fail as long as you can keep range.

Who wants to micromanage more modules?

Failure rates means L5 for the new skill is mandatory, not optional really. Everyone whines they MUST train this like the learning skills to compete.

Bring friends and youll likely never have multiple cycle failures or having a mix of these and regular points would mean youd always capture and hold a target.

Upside: It is now a bit more of a chance for a target to get away 1v1.


So not really much upside for a lot of downsides. Having regular points/scrams work in such a way would cause a shitstorm for sure from the player base but would still be an interesting idea none the less. But I think itd be more a though experiment than a practical solution. People will hate the RNG/skill issues the most just like with ECM. But mah experience skillz!! Will be the cry refrain.

Because Eve is about set ups I think itd be more of the setup should be the thing to be made harder rather than the capture. Most fights are won or lost long before you get on grid imo. And that part of the game would be the thing that would be most interesting to change. That being said allowing some sort of chance issues in ALL areas of combat would be neat. Guns that jam and dont fire, random issues with shields, armor, or hull not just in ehp but in resist levels, random boosts like WH effects but limited to ships, mods, etc. Again the balance and coding of it would be intense and the trade off might not be worth it in the long run.

The randomness that makes life what it is, a random walk if you will, is an intriguing prospect but what do you gain with such issues? Now that we have unlimited skills maybe true randomness in gaming might be a thing. Procedurally generated worlds, coupled with fractal based growth patterns coupled with true RNG in all areas even at SUPER low levels for random time frames would present a very unique environment. But pity to the coders and balancers would be needed as they would need sympathy I think.

Sorry. Didn't read the post above all the way through

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My word you are a total loon, Lloyds of London is not a Fortune 500 company (wrong country for a start), it was at the time small entities Syndicates of wealthy people investing in insurance, I was an entry boy, interesting term that always got a giggle out of me, basically I was recording the data from slips onto our paper record system. Internet did not exist then either and we used punch cards, when I started working there it was a place of character with colourful characters who were normally the less intelligent upper class in the UK, I loved the place to bits, worked there for 6 years.

Saw the LMX death spiral in action which reminds me of credit default swaps, but I guess you're too stupid to understand that, go and look that up on the Internet...

So you can look up a word on the internet, big deal I wanted bumble to say what it meant

Personally I think it'd be a more interesting concept if a ship had a spool-up time for the warp drive similar to how aligning works now. But if you happened to take a certain degree of damage, the spool-up would malfunction and reset to a much longer timer.


Not a clue how one makes that fair without targetable subsystems, or some kind of special ammo though.

A man of intelligence, I did not have the will power to further explain the ECM suggestion to the Pit Bull group but you sir did so and have my utter respect. Nicely explained ideas, bit different to what I suggested but good ideas.

You're funny. But not in the way you imagine.

Whether you agree with OP or not is MEH (my pseudo word of the month), I love reading people's idea. With ideas come dialogue and with dialogue comes even better ideas. I think its safe to say a lot of what we experience in the Eve universe started out as nothing more than a forum post of ideas. So keep posting your ideas and again, MEH to the trolls.

ps: My idea would be for more space bunnies, more bunnies is always a good thing.

Oh, now it's realism again.

Thing is - in Eve you cannot surround a position, cut off someones way of retreat, block someones path like Sun Tzu might have. They just hit warp and warp straight through everything in their way. Your whole "you'd have to think" argument would hold some water if there were other methods to prevent someone from going somewhere, but there aren't.

You know what really requires players to think? Disruptors, scrams and webs. Do you want to be in range of those, or don't you?

I love how the addicts puff themselves up and say things like "realism?" They like realism when it suits their ganking method. They cry foul and OP if it doesn't. Short Attention Span Theater at its finest.

In eve, everyone's a game designer