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Are you asking for more relevant skills or a shorter training time. Because I can tell you which one you're likely not getting.

Congrats!! You guys have officially ruined the game and given a major ****YOU to the seasoned EVE veterans. The idea of a FAX class is a good idea, but you (CCP) have basically ruined the game with this implementation. It'll be fun to see how many pilots leave the game after this expansion. Let me explain why:

Mistake #1: In vegas you guys told us that the Triage ability will be limited to only one FAX. Which in essence means only one FAX in the fleet. With no remote repping from another FAX to keep it from being primaried straight off the field that single FAX is going to be useless.

Mistake #2: The current skill bonuses for carriers make them unique. You guys gave these new FAX generic, and albeit lame, bonuses. There's no specialazation for the bonuses. They simply copy each other of the same type. This is especially evident in the Lif (Minmatar FAX) and the Ninazu (Gallente FAX) . They are basically the same ship, which now makes the Minmatar triage focus on shield. This completely throws the Minmatar versatility out the window. Most Minmatar ships can be either shield or armor fit, but the bonus on the LIF means that it is basically shield only. Sure it can rep armor, but it's local tank is focused on shield. Minmatar carriers already have inferior HP than their counterparts, so now Minmatar triage is just pointless garbage.

Mistake #3: Cycle time. Really? A Cycle time bonus? What is the point in forcing 2 of the 4 Triage FAX ships to use cap boosters? These 2 FAX are virtually useless on the battlefield. with Cycle time eating up cap and the Nuets that are going to be applied, its cap is going to be gone before the battle is in full swing, and that's not counting the local reps that are going to be needed since these will be the Primary target of any hostile fleet.

Mistake #4: Remote Ancillary Shield Booster and Armor Repairer. No, just No. Rediculous idea, especially if you can only fit one per ship.

Mistake #5: (More of a personal one, but still points to some issues) Making them all look the same. The Ninazu is the only exception. Unless these transform while in triage, they all look the same. Since when do Amarr and Caldari ships go Vertical? The Gallente is understandable with the Myrm and Domi both being vertical in nature, though the Domi is just as long as it is tall. But only Minmatar have a vertical Capital ship as well as several sub capitals with a vertical design. The Amarr have the Oracle (which I also thought was a bad design for the Amarr) and the closest the Caldari have is the Merlin and Scorpion variants. This makes the design team seem very new to the game or unobservant at the very least. Maybe there will be some Lore to come out and explain these designs, but in the end, they don't fit in with the their perspective racial shiptypes.

Congratulations CCP, you've managed to contradict yourselves, both in design and function. The FAX look cool, but out of place with their respective races and without at least 2 on field, they are not going to be utilized.

I hope this post gets players thinking a little about these changes and their aspect in the game. I know that as of now, I'm taking my triage modules off my carriers because a Battle platform is better than a useless hunk of junk in my hangar, and letting any of them "Be converted to a FAX" would be a waste of resources.

That's just it, it's not different from what we have now, and what we have now is crap. They almost made is so that two of the three different ship classes you could fly with one skill (logi capital, drone DPS capital, drone DPS supercapital) would require its own training but they backed out.

If things were equal the Dreadnought skill would let you fly a Titan (since it's "just a bigger Dread" just as a supercarrier is "just a bigger carrier"), and if they ever split the Dreads into a siege version and a non-siege version then the same skill should apply to both. This idea would be considered heresy if I suggested it, however the exact same thing is somehow okay when applied to Carrier/Supercarrier/FAX because that's the way it's always been done.

The answer is not scripted hardeners, all that is doing is apply a band-aid over a flesh wound.

Just ******* keep it. Its absurd you want to go through with this change with so much push back and you still think its a good idea. I guarantee you whatever "fix" you come up with ccp, wont be as fun or unique as combat refitting.

If you can script locally, it takes out the tool needed to refit(and it will probably be weak as ****, so why bother with it. With no combat refitting you would just slap on Faction eanms because you have no idea what the ship is going to go up against), lots of fights im in revolve around securing that tool or keeping it away from an enemy.

Why would they make it better

well they are

and jump fatigue is a good thing

the removal of combat refitting is ******* ********

its actually removing gameplay

yes it is removing game play however it is gameplay that is making capital ships very hard to balance


combat refitting is the main reason i fly triage and unlike what so many people think there is a lot of for thought and skill that goes into this its a lot more than just pulling random cards into your deck


but i also know first hand how powerful it is and i can imagine how hard it must be to balance around

i may be wrong but i think by nav window you are referring to the overview?

in that case i don't think it is capable of pulling information from outside the solar system and this may be a lot of work in legacy code to fix just for a small convinced however if it can be done easily it would be nice

its meant to be a fleet support ship and considering its role 6 highs seems about right considering on has to be dedicated to the triage unit


and whos to say ccp wouldn't give triage a bonuses to warfare links forcing them on field in capital fights