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What will the injector price be in 10 minutes?

Sad day indeed.

There are some short term benefits for minor amount of players who will be able to afford these and know how to utilize it properly. I doubt that it will significantly increase revenue in the long term. Especially since i expect the number of subscriptions to go down.

Side effects will hit much harder I am afraid, lots of people feel betrayed and will question is this game worth investing their time and money when they are not provided with any consistency. When such game fundamentals can be changed, anything can. And after all CCP is company which provides us service for a fee, they should thoroughly think about customer relations and how they are handling those. It is much more than handling petitions. Beside this whole fail idea, very concerning is total lack of communication with the player base and provided feedback and it is quite disappointing that reddit is more important to them than their own game official forums. Plus, it is continuum of wrong direction, this will not fix eve in any way, quite contrary.

Beside that you have managed to fail even harder on the part of your original fail idea (protect sp prestige - which was not doable without hardcap) you have made it even more easier, with higher return for chars over 80mil sp. For ~80bil isk I can be top1 sp player. Nice way to tell Dr Caymus "thanks for your loyalty through all the years" CCP?

I predict that after first "boom" when people will get back to try it out, sell unneeded sp, buy sp to try out some ship, activity will go down since they will quit for the very same reasons they had quit in the first place. I doubt SP was the main issue there. Beside them disappointed players will quit and the numbers will shrink again.

in 1-2 year eve will have even less players and plex prices will go even higher. Anyone want to bet on it?


P.S. Maybe this is just CCP`s hidden plan to listen to vets for real and make it like 2005 again, I mean with the player numbers :D

P.P.S. I will not enter discussion with spammers/trolls/idiots from previous topic, you have failed to provide any counter arguments for the side effects in past and i really have no need to waste time on your gibberish. The change is here, CCP did not care about the feedback, future will show who was right. For the sake of game I really do hope it would be you, even though it is really hard to believe. I think the game is going in wrong direction and this is just another nail in the coffin (might be the most significant so far).

Damn, I was way off, I predicted around 600 mil and was constantly told I was wrong and they would be far cheaper.

900 mil + to inject 500K SP for a player who won't be effected by diminishing returns. Who more than likely won't have 900 mil unless they buy plex. Damn marketing at CCP went all out to make as much as possible for this didn't they.. This has EA game stores smell all over it.
EA marketing strategies, profit before players - Hint, I've played EA games for many years and NEVER use their scam ripoff store. Seems New Eden Store remains off limits for now too. Shame really, if the store were more reasonably priced, there is a few skins I would like and be prepared to spend money on, except Aurum packs do not work for me unless I spend $74AU for a couple (yes TWO) of skins
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I wonder if any of the marketing people at CCP have ever heard of - Selling more at cheaper prices (especially when you have very limited overhead) will show a much larger long term profit, than selling a few at high prices to a limited customer base. Digital products can be as cheap as the producer wants them to be, seems CCP would rather have a limited, smaller market for expensive items than a large (more customers using) market with more reasonably priced items.

For Devs - The new banner ad for 2X "bonus" Aurum.
What a clever little advertising trick that is
Your $20 will get you an extra 450 Aurum - Which is all but useless you are buying 5 skill extractors, which seem to be priced just so - Once the "extra bonus Aurum" is removed (in a week or two) You will always need to buy more Aurum than you need. Clever marketing for a quick profit but not good for long term.
It's like CCP marketing knows SP trading will be a niche thing so have set out to profit as much as possible from it initially, knowing it won't be a long term income stream.

How many more items could be sold through the store long term, if they were say, 25% cheaper? How much income would CCP lose if they were 25% cheaper yet 50% more of the player base could justify spending money in the store because "whatever" is 25% cheaper and therefore players X and Y as well as A (player with more ready cash) can afford it?

Rant Over............

no but there are some of the who had injected a lot since yesterday (eveboard->most unlocated SP's)

So does this mean you can't use skill trading if you don't use 2 factor authentication?
Or like the login process, 2 factor authentication is an option but not required?

Dr Caymus has been overtaken on top 1 positions in total SP after 13 years. Just because someone invested some cash / isk.

Thank you CCP for showing us on the very first day of implementing your stupid idea how much efforts, time and money of long lasting customers has been appreciated. Customers who have helped you built everything your game was. Really sends a strong message to existing player base and to potential new players.

Remember the good old days since you wont have them again, karma is a *****.

Edit: And be ashamed of what you have become. I remember CCP which actually had some morale stands and care for customers...

And this just shows those idiots on previous topics how much they lack a clue, since I wrote this will happen and they were all denying it...

Because you are unable to comprehend. I have already explained in previous topic that training queue was not always there, remaps either. So it has taken efforts to time skills, sometimes you had to wake up in the middle of the night in order to not lose training time. It has taken efforts to time them, to utilize attributes for the most SP/hour because people actually cared about it. It was a contest for 13 years. Just because you do not care does not mean others feels the same.

Edit: The point is, if there was no cash investment option he would be no 1 as others who trained even longer than him did not plan, execute, perform that well. But CCP decided to show us that time, money and efforts or the players who have been their customers longest are not worth a dime. GJ CCP!

If you remember ty, there were a few of us who said from the off the price they would be - the destruction of years of dedication - All in the name of the money grab. Everything is coming to fruition beautifully now and as much as i've loved and stayed loyal to this game i hope they ******* choke on this abomination that they have done.

Yet here we are and nothing is destroyed. The issue as always is placing false importance on a competition that most of the players, including those who have played for years, can't even think about participating in, but for need of maintaining it can't actively advance their characters, even if at the expense of the advancement others put up for sale.

And the irony of it is that the gains from that dedication aren't lost. In fact today's lack of price explosion demonstrates that those same individuals, with their abundance of SP gained from that dedication, were willing participants in the mechanic at hand.

What I stated isn't changed by whether Caymus was here first or started yesterday. It's simple math Don. 2 people with equal rates of return over time using the same methods will only differ by how much time they've had to accrue SP. And that goes to great lengths to ignore every other reason why someone just as dedicated to SP, but perhaps with a worse starting attribute set, or taking time to train alts or whatever other reason.

Did he perform better? We don't even know, not every character is even on EB, and no manner of accounting for training efforts over the set attribute of the past of training multiple characters can be accounted for.

What we did know is that of those entering the game after a certain point couldn't even try to approach that effort because there was literally no way. Beyond that there's a certain irony that a pilot actively using a pirate implant set and taking risks in game and playing is considered less effort than someone sitting in station in +5s because they make his ticker move slightly faster by your reasoning. So here we are, with a means to actually have effort and SP progress intertwine again, yet you're still complaining, which makes it clear that it's not about effort, but tenure.