EVE General Discussion

Hmmm... looks like we are talking about extremes again...

PVP vs PVE, CCP can't do this vs CCP can easily do this...

It seems to me that talking in extremes is what is contributing to nothing being done either way and it gets to be lines in the sand that people debate about and aren't really in concrete to begin with so to me, we should be trying to work together toward a solution that is win-win for everyone and doesn't end up as lose-lose for everyone.

Those that think that development of expanding the game to include avatar interaction will detract from resources that are currently driving the direction the game is headed in have a point. However, would you support an effort that DIDN'T take away from those resources, even if you think that isn't possible right now, if it could be possible, would you support the effort?

Those that feel that it can't be done in stages and has to rival all the other space MMO's that already do this (and you might color me in this group) right out of the gate, would you support some kind of staged deployment concept where the avatar universe expands more slowly and incrementally? (I would if done well, has to be a little less buggy than CQ currently is.)

To those that think that this will kill PvP or PvE in some fashion, what if it introduces PvP or PvE on a different level? Maybe two characters that duke it out in space meet up on planet and become buddies, or face each other in the street 'high noon' style, or extend a rivalry that ends up drawing entire corps and alliances into the mix. Would that be okay with you?

What I'm looking for is what people are willing to do to achieve a goal. I personally think that with enough backing, we could see a fully developed avatar world that is an extension of New Eden that we all could enjoy, and new players also would have places to even perhaps run in simulators before they embark in their rookie ships, any idea is possible.

My thinking is centered around the idea of, as humans, we tend to attach ourselves to object, human objects even more. If we attach ourselves to human looking avatars that have human interaction, then wouldn't that be more of an incentive to stay playing than ditching a few starships and a skill tree where we are always paranoid about interacting with other ships that aren't our corp buddies?

I, speaking only for myself, will stop wanting it if someone from CCP management says it's too expensive and dead forever. Then EVE will forever be what it is right now. Otherwise, I'll hold out hope for the expansion concept.

So last year, they blew up some of the cake and put cardboard in another part for flavour.
Next week they sell the secret ingredient and offer to smear it over their bodies for you to lick off.

If I had the means, I would like to learn how has inflation impacted CCP's financials. 15 €/ $ buy you now less stuff than they could 12 years ago. My guess is that inflation's impact on CCP's income would be related to Iceland's inflation but then we must factor the evolution of ISK versus EUR, GBP and USD... and that really flies over my head.

Houm... guess I'll start a thread with this. Nothing could be lost.

Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it's almost impossible to eradicate- Inception (2010)

Regards, a Freelancer

ps: the idea was Ambulation (2007)

If you really want WIS to happen, you should really stop talking things like this:


Its EVE and core gameplay is build around reasons to fly spaceships here, at least until there is a reason to go on your own feet somewhere.

Speaking of which, I hoped to wake up in a station and then get in my one ship. That we could have longer fights and escape or that a loss would mean more, that systems and regions were not so easy to cross.
That your one ship would be modified and added upon.
I dreamt of plotting a course that would sling shot around planets, which I had mapped out to get somewhere quicker than others, that I might have a crew to talk with (as avatars) and they would do things, like one manage a range of ewar modules, another the repair systems and another would be using the guns, while I over saw the strategy and controlled ship movements (roles interchangeable)

Having a different ship for each task and having whole sets of them always struck me as a bit weird.
(Now obviously, EVE is completely different from that and won't be like that).
However, via the tools I mentioned, players could generate ship interiors, so you could one day go from CQ to ship and have friends walking around in it with you or hanging out and chatting while attached to a citadel.

Still better experience than Scam Citizen.

62,400+ views and it all started with..."I was away from EVE for a while...."

The high price of the monocle was the excuse, it was more of an anti in-game shop thing.

I don't expect it of EVE.
The very core of the game would not support it.

Walking through the CQ door and into a Dust social environment is entirely possible, however.
Having them hitching rides on our ships and us being able to eject them, again possible.

Selecting a, "Board ship" object and loading inside your ship as any change zone happens, is also entirely possible.
Choosing a station camera and looking outside the station or citadel (only visual) as if you are piloting it like a ship is also possible.

There are so many directions that EVE can go but we keep getting more new ships and shiny baubles that put us further away from a newbie start point in either time or cost.

EVE could have more ways to play instead of more stuff to play with.