Player Features and Ideas Discussion

good question; good direction

- so first: is it intentional or not?

Let's not forget the omnipotent police.

Okay, simple example:

There is one asteroid and we are both interested in mining it. If I get there a few minutes first and have better skills, ship, etc. then I’ll “win” by getting more of that asteroid and the resulting ore. PvP is competition. As such mining does have a competitive aspect to it. Not in the same sense as me shooting you in the face (in game obviously), but none-the-less it is PvP.

So, if anything you are the one unaware of the nature of this game. About the only aspect of the game where there is little to no competition/PvP is mission running. If I am running a mission for Agent X, you can too. The use of agents is non-rivalrous and non-excludable.

You keep on impugning our characters and whining when people get heated with you. You really are a special snowflake.

As for who would not want to be safer? Hi. How you doing. I live in null sec and spend a great deal of time there. I also do invention in low sec because the taxes are lower and I know how to avoid the problems of low sec.

So here I am in areas of the game less safe than where you prefer to play and I’m not only fine with it, I’m making decent ISK too and keeping myself entertained.

Yep. Some of the newer players may not know this, but waaaay back you could kill CONCORD.

yea and waaay back you ganked 1st day newbies and played with cans..
- fun times, lots of laughs at all the carebear tears..

it was a game for jerks..

It's a motherfucking background process of the physics engine, for crying out loud. it's probably just a simple collision check, no different than say, Skyrim.

You can't change jack **** about that, let alone try to tag along a bunch of other checks associated with a higher level process (like flagging).

Idk all that much about stackless Python from fifteen years ago, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. They'd have to rewrite the game from the ground up, something they haven't been able to do in half a decade or more, or they wouldn't have taken so long to replace POSes.

Speaking of which, teachable moment here.

Did you know that, in all likelihood, they have not actually fixed POS code at all? What they've done is functionally cut it out of the game by replacing it with a different mechanic, the Citadel system. The POS code is most likely still intertwined into the base game, they're just going to delete all the in game instances of it once they have a stable replacement, and then pretend like it doesn't exist.

You know how I know this? Two reasons.

We've been told repeatedly that CCP has been unable to fix the POS code because it was largely undocumented and wound into too many other things in the base game. Removing it would break EVE in a fundamental, unfixable way. I have no reason to believe they lied about this, so the second assumption moves forward from that.

Secondly, that they have been making their own mini structures in the form of the various, and mostly loathed, deployables for the past year or so. They have been testing and building upon their ability not to fix the POS code, but to build a stable replacement.

Hopefully that makes sense to everybody, I have had a few.

It had way more players and way more active players back then.

Pretty clear which one the market prefers.

exactly... so how about they check me.. I'm trying to align and warp; perhaps it's taking longer than it should

or perhaps the BUMPER is doing more than once...

maybe both situations being positive simultaneously cause the flag?

Guess CCP screwed up then