Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So glad my kids are both under 6.

Except you have ways out of that already.

They just involve other people. Why should you get any more? Because you don't use what already exists?

This is not a game mechanics problem. It's an attitude problem.

This is not a game mechanics problem. It's an attitude problem.[/quote]

yes, the attitude of entitlement that gankers seem to have regarding the botlike nature of farming freighters with the current broken unlimited bumping mechanic...

my suggested solution is simple, rewards ak piloting , creates a few variables for the gankers, bumpers + target and is no way a nerf to ganking . what's the problem?

Our suggestion is even simpler. Use the tools and options currently available and be almost guaranteed safe passage. What's the problem?

I'd say 4-12 are the best years. Old enough to be long past potty training and accidents, but still young and full of wonder.

Sorry, that is just nonsense. Ganking is clearly an example of emergent game play...which is entirely the point of this game. CCP set up a game with very few rules, some mechanics and sits back and sees what happens. Sometimes bad stuff, but usually very interesting stuff. For example, that we have people like Chribba who have built of a reputation of extreme honesty to allow players to do things there are no mechanics for...is for me amazing. It supports quite a bit of work on this in game theory and economics: reputation effects.

So to sit there and lump ganking in its current form as botlike is incredibly dishonest. Ganking in it's current form is absolutely an outgrowth of attempts to nerf ganking in the past. Changes to insurance, changes to CONCORD response times, and so forth. Ganking now is much more organized and sophisticated than it was in the past....and ironically more common.

You and players like you whined and whined, CCP responded and it blew up in your face. The gankers became even more organized and effective.

And talk about botlike. Even though events like Burn Jita and Amarr are talked about weeks before hand and there are fixed dates....freighter pilots still come to those systems and die in droves. Talk about being not just unaware of one's surroundings, but almost willfully ignorant of the fact that they are stepping into the bear's den.

the title of this thread is 'balancing bumping and looting mechanics' , anyone who thinks that unlimited bumping with absolutely no consequence for the bumper isn't a broken mechanic is imho a few knives short of a cutlery set.

Eve is supposedly all about consequences for your actions , where's the consequences for a bumper in a npc corp who can just carry on bumping a target indefinitely if it takes his fancy, a target who probably hasn't decided to play Eve on 'easy mode' by kissing uncle jimmy or mittens ring with all the resultant welfare and mollycoddling ?

please link to anything i've posted anywhere where i've 'whined' about any mechanic on these forums to ccp. if you can't then please stop your trolling /ad hominem attacks and stay on topic or kindly shut up .

o7 bb

sheesh, dontcha know there's only one bigbud skunkafella ?

You just don't get it. The consequences are not supposed to imposed by CCP. You the player have to impose them. If you decline that is not the problem of the guy doing the bumping....that is your problem. Running to CCP saying, "It's not fair! Fix it!" is antithetical to the very idea you just articulated: that there should be consequences to one's actions in game. If I blind jump to a cyno beacon and get my carrier burnt down...is it my fault? Or should I blame the people who burnt down my carrier and CCP?

To be getting bumped means you have catastrophically failed. You did NOT have a scout. You did NOT have a scout with webs. And you jumped into a system known for ganking...which relies on bumping.

Don't want to be bumped for 4-5 hours? Okay, logoff. Problem solved. Go do something else.

Its so hard to tell your posts apart from the other people who have no experience on the matter but want to nerf ganking anyways because they just dont like it.

@ khergit

Problem with your post.

- Why do you feel entitled to haul with a capital ship without friends or alts? Other caps are vulnerable to bumping and because of that are best used in teams. Why does the freighter need to be special?

Solo players are not meant to be as powerful as group's of players. You could instead fly a DST (something that is harder to bump and can even use the mwd trick).

Edit- and despite your doom and gloom, the truth is that piloting with a freighter, with no friends or alts, is commonly done with a very high rate of success. In fact you can go afk and still haul through gank systems with a better chance of surviving than getting ganked. So how cant I haul solo? You're attempt to make the situation seem worse than it actually is is simply disingenuous.