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Not sure I can agree with that assessment, but ok.

Later.

CCP, please implement character appearance options for heavy skill extractor / injector users. Something like reddened skin and a grouping of needle marks on the temples or forehead or whatever. Maybe bloodshot eyes too. Or hair styles where a small circular patch of hair is missing (at the extraction/injection site).

Saw the fan-made concept art for this on Reddit, +1.

Make the impure ones readily visible.

That looks more like a skin rash, rather than damage / partially-healed skin from "injectors". Which would go directly into the head, rather than the spinal pod connectors. Still, cool art.

What I suggested is completely optional; I don't think anyone would like losing control over their portraits like the reddit thread suggests. I also think that API checks to the skills and wallet will probably be sufficient to detect injector users.

Hmmm...It's officially Pay-to-Win
So is this the beginning of the End of EVE.
It was fun while it lasted.

The mouth-breathers claiming this is not P2W are wrong.

When one loses a T3Cruiser they lose a skill level. Now they can "buy" that skill back instantly. This becomes important in long 0.0 wars where T3C fleets are more preferred for non-capital combat.

He who has the richest members, wins in the alliance wars.

It is also P2W because SP is necessary to unlock parts of this game. Without the skills for marauders, you can't fly them. Now in one day you could join and unlock whatever you want with enough cash.

Now any time CCP nerf hammers the FOTM, those with the credit cards ready to fly can switch skills right to the new hotness, while the rest of us are stuck with skills less than desirable and have to start training up the new stuff.

This might not be P2W in the sense that a newb won't be able to buy 100mil sp and solo win fights. But when it comes to being able to field large doctrine fleets, do profitable PVE or unlock parts of the game reserved to seasoned players, it is clearly P2W.

Posted this in my Alliance's forums and thought I should post here as well. I read about 15 or so pages into this thread so forgive me if these things have been covered after that.

I for one see this a wholly bad change for the game. It removes consequences from the seller and reduces overall value for the buyer.

1. Removing consequences
The choices you made creating your character, skilling them up while you mined, ratted, or pvped are what made them into what they are today. You tried something and did or didn't like it and then made another choice. It took me like 6 years to decide I wanted to be an industrialist character. Those SP I put into spaceship command or drones is sort of useless now, but they are part of my characters history. I know why I did that at the time.

Players trained their skills based on decisions they made at the time. Some planned them out years in advance and some just picked the coolest named ones. Either way they have a consequence that must be payed for their decision. There seems to be a movement going around, in America at least, trying to remove negative history from all our records. To me this feels like the same movement, and you get to make ISK from it!

2. Reducing value
Part of the draw, for me at least, was learning new things in this game. Figuring out how mechanics work and how to use them against other players. All of that stuff takes time. I learned how to manually pilot in a Rifter and when I lost one it wasn't that big of a deal. I moved up to a Moa and learned how to snipe, meaning I didn't need to it as strong of a tank for the missions I was on. I also learned I needed tracking to deal with those frigates. I know I lost at least one Moa due to that mistake. I took what I had learned and then moved into a Ferox. I fit it with 200mm rails to deal with the frigates but then found that I didn't have enough damage to deal with the BS belt rats in nullsec. That is when someone told me about tracking computers!

All of this learning was done as my core and support skills trained up. I was able to afford to replace my losses with the isk I had earned. A new player starting out with isk from Plex and SP from injectors isn't going to know all of the nuances of how to properly fly their ships. They won't have as strong of a connection to their ship because they didn't earn it. At best they will see them all as 100% expendable cause they can just buy a new one. At worst they will think, I just bought this ship with real money and it got blown up in 10 seconds, why should I keep doing this? Overall they are just going to end up with more expensive losses and need to buy more Plex to replace them, and keep paying their subscription. Dropping that much cash on a game doesn't seem appealing to me when there are many others out there that either only charge a subscription or are free to play but have micro transactions, but not both.

People keep talking about this existing through the character bazaar. This is not the same though. With the bazaar someone still paid for the consequences of the decisions that made that character who they are. You have to keep the name, have to live with them being an AWOXer, have to live with their faction warfare standings, and so on. The bazaar was not designed to sell SP, it was designed to limit black market character sales.

There seems to be a trend happening to this game that I find very unsettling. The devs seem to be trying to limit peoples risk or increase their isk payout. This in turn has lead to small plex farming in rookie ships, roaming in frigates and destroyers instead of larger more expensive ships, safer and more lucrative ratting, huge isk faucets in highsec, and groups like CODE and Marmites popping up to generate content because it isn't really happening elsewhere. The new asset safety system in the new citadels is another step in that direction. This harsh and unforgiving world we started with is feeling a lot less harsh and more forgiving(if you buy some Plex) each and every patch.

All this was said without addressing any balance issues dealing with older players exploiting this system to increase their power even further. That will happen.

I am going to think about this some more before I decide but right now I think I will be unsubbing my accounts when this patch drops. I am getting tired of seeing this game hulled out into a shell of its former self.

and introducing this feature before balancing T3 will be a disaster. Wait what balance? We have D3 with dead focus group.

512k SP? Ppl are so naive. It's all about money. Some of you are happy that you'll respec you mining skills. Right...you'll pay for SP loss, because that is what it be, unless you are <5mil SP.

EvE is eating it's tail. Overall PCU will increase, but we are going back to alts on-line with spike on new citadels.

Focus Nordgren. If this don't work you'll be the person resposible for slow death of EvE. We will see in feburaury 2017 I guess.

Probably right. But Mike is also right, if CCP is gonna gift us an herpes with our money, we should be allowed to have a voice on what kind of herpes will be.

Admittedly, I am culturally inclined to fatalism, so I will just weather this storm hoping that it won't affect me via PLEX prices. Because there's little things that can be done now and weren't suggested in the threadnaught, and of the things that could be done, none would really work to remove this feature once CCP has comitted to it.

CCP needs/wants more money from EVE. They've decided that double charging players for skills is the safest/easiest to implement option at the moment. This will change EVE forever, but very likely CCP can't do anything else, or maybe doesn't wants.

As I said, if they can't make EVE a better game, they will sell it in a different way.

And thus it begins.