Upcoming Feature and Change Feedback Center

1) First, and most important, the "old" tracking camera needs to still have a button to select it. Not having it as an option means most of the time I will not even think to enable the new cameras to see how they feel in different situations.

2) Is the orbit camera purely meant for videos? If so the dampened zoom is OK (could definitely be toned down a little regardless). If not, I am not sure what the point of this camera is, as it is inferior in every way to the tracking camera for combat.

3) The tactical camera absolutely needs ZERO dampening/inertia on the zoom and when panning.

4) First person mode needs both mouse control and the ability to look around independent of the current direction.

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Wtf for? Based on what I just read you aren't listening to any of it. We don't want a "set as interest action" that's constantly requiring clicks and button presses and we don't need cameras that orbit around invisible points in space with FOV's that make it look like we're looking through a fisheye lens so we all get space sick. All I read there is "we made our horrible changes less broken (pats self on back)"

The effects of the camera bobbing and drifting all over the place isn't cinematic, it's obnoxious. The track button should line objects up with the player ship so we can SEE what direction we're looking AND IT SHOULD STAY THERE! No drifting around, no panning no BS. Instead the camera just swoops around and places the object "somewhere" in the field of view and then proceeds to drift all over the place as the ship moves around. Sometimes it's off on the right of my screen, sometimes it's the left, sometimes it's below me, sometimes its above me. Not ONCE during all that clicking did I ever feel like I was actually looking AT what I clearly want to look AT. It appears to be a result of the camera orbiting around some arbitrary point in space instead of around the ship. I've said it before in this thread and I will say it again, it's NOT a desirable mechanic. One of you guys even asked a while back what it is specifically that is making ppl claim the new camera is nauseating. People, myself included, have pointed out the exact causes yet it get's ignored and your "improvements" are to make things "FASTER." I mean really? Wtf do you even need players to point out what the problem is? Have you even tried using your own camera?

At what point did someone say "HEY, its way too convenient that a player can toggle on a tracking camera button and have the camera automatically point AT the selected object. What we NEED to do is add in some 3 key shortcuts and an extra button that they have to press EVERY SINGLE TIME to get the same effect. And HEY while it at it, why would any one want a STABLE camera that actually points AT their ship? What we NEED is a camera that drifts all over the place, rotates around a random point in space and makes everyone reach for a vomit bag! That would be awesome sauce! We'll even throw in a fish eye lens effect with a massive FOV to make everyone feel EXTRA drunk!"

At first I thought, "Hey, they're just trying to improve on things and introduce some cool new stuff (even if they shouldn't be mucking with something that isn't broken)" Now I'm just thoroughly convinced that this new camera project just needs to be binned all together. I mean WTF I'm sitting here typing on one screen while my ship is sitting in space on another and the camera is just moving around all on its fracking own. Apparently it just decided I would appreciate some cool camera panning action so it was gonna give me some.

If you wanna put the tactical camera on live and give it it's own little button have at it. It's the only thing about these changes that isn't garbage. The rest of this stuff should NEVER be viewed by the public unless its activated under an "advanced" (lol) camera menu aimed at film makers.

Sorry guys, I've been 13 years in Eve and some of this stuff is just becoming beyond laughable. It's just so poorly conceived, it's a waste of resources, all player feed back is ignored because you're gonna do whatever you want (or some brick head is telling you to) and a good tongue lashing rant is in order.

tippia please login sisi , check the changes , give feedback in the test server sub, you will be considerably more visible
and
get the feedback in before it gets pushed to tq.

After seeing what you've done on the test server, new camera needs to include 'classic camera mode'. I like what we already have. Add to it, but don't remove it. You'll break the game for me.

I just tried out the marquee-select to lock multiple targets on Sisi and noticed a little problem:
It locks everything. This includes wrecks, asteroids, space junk and other things when I just want to lock a few rats.

Would be nice if the things locked were filtered by the overview settings, locking only things that appear on the overview.
I don't think many players are interested in locking all the Large Collidable Structures instead of the things shooting at them.

1st person camera is super neat! I love it.


Now we just need better/proper manual ship control.... :D


Would like to also right click (or otherwise) in first person mode to pan the camera view around as in some other games...


When micro jumping, the 1st person reverts back to orbit... I don't think it should do that.

The orbit camera should have the radial menu options that the original camera does, tracking and all that.

I'd like to see 1st person eventually form into a bridge/cockpit type thing where the ship controls change to represent that view.

Lurker here posting for the first time.
one thing i noticed with the camera controls is that rotating the camera is too slow
is it possible CCP could work the option to add a "Sensitivity" bar to make camera rotations faster/slower

Hello!

I tried the new orbit camera mode. I did not like it because it made me feel seasick.

In my experiance the old camera is much more precise when you rotate and zoom. The "cinematic" effect as CCP call it made me feel nauseas. The camera speed under:

"System menu (esc) > Display and Graphics > Ship View Camera Settings > Camera speed"

does not make the new camera more precise in my opinion. Because the "cinematic" effect only becomes slower or faster. Unfortantly I felt seasick no matter what I sat the slider to.

I would like that the new "orbit camera mode" on release are implemented as an opt-in option.

Kind regards
Lizden

I am curious to try these out.

Before I do though, here is my main concern about representing the epic scale and I am curious if the adjustements somehow diminish this effect:

I have always found the ships we fly "feel" smaller than what they should due to their relative speeds and agility. In other words, A ship the size of a sky-scraper moves like we would expect a jet and without reference points, we don't actually realize their size at first glance. If you look at a Myrmidon, for example, and then watch it perform a 180 degrees turn while considering it stands higher than the highest building on earth... Goodbye any crew located at extremities and say hi to spaghetti sauce.

I tried doing fly-bys at around 10% speed close to stations or placing pods next to ships, which seemed to confirm my suspicions about this.

Here is a video (source: "The Onion" satirical news) which shows Nyx-class hulls fly around like drones... Maybe it's me but they also feel like being the size of a drone.