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please let me remove the tactical overlay from the scanning window, without having to remove it from the 'main' window.

also, can't see anything with these new scanning globes, so bright and opaque

This is missing:

Hovering over celestials in the overview doesn't highlight them in the scanning window, like when you hover over anoms in the probe window. Almost essential considering the low visibility this new map forces on you. If I have tacs over a gate, I can't see the gate bracket. Because it bundles everything into the balloons.

The new system is less responsive and harder to read.

1. The sun graphic is too bright and needs to go. Same with the starfield, it's distracting and needs to go.
2. The scan range spheres are too bright and there's too much detail. They need to be adjusted so that only the edges show.
3. Some signature graphics - drones, small ships - are too hard to see clearly,.

In conclusion, the old system is cleaner, faster and easier to use.

Hi,

With all due respect for something that does look quite pretty. This is not the area of the game that you should be using as a marketing tool.

The more convoluted the scanning map gets, the further from a usable system it becomes.

When is the last time you opened any map from Google to a physical map and expected distracting sparkles?

Sadly, although I am quit happy with the fact, the more basic and wire frame the scanning map is, the easier it is to see what you are doing.

There is no need for animation for a red sphere or excessively distracting probes that get in the way of clearly seeing the signature dot.

All changes to the visuals of the probe map directly reduces its functionality.

Please stop this or at very least, never remove the option to turn it off.

Thanks for reading,
Moloney.

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Legend

= bugs -> what it'd take for me to voluntarily leave it enabled for serious work
- flaws
+ benefits
> observations

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Problems with the beta dscan:

== absolutely requires an 'apply the selected overview filter' toggle. I have > 30 custom overviews(, bracket, dscan profiles) to scroll through and usually leave it set to a specific dscan filter; but when I want to i.e. quickly not filter, but instead show every can, corpse and drone on the drag bubble, It's clear and urgent - not time to spend in an irritating and imposed menu.

== the au/km swap button, asides from putting in another stage between hitting scan, is also schizophrenic as regarding what number it is currently accepting. the requirement exists, for frequent change of scan range - say, from 10k short or a number of au's. I'd leave it on km's and use au>km hotkeys like before; i.e. 1944772310 (13au if you were wondering), but it wouldn't even let me.

> Add them each back; au/km boxes and overview toggle off. There is space in the UI.

- the scan in progress animation doesn't seem to follow tidi (this is not a big deal)

+ keybind to initiate dscan is useful (but it doesn't make up for the others)

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Problems with the beta probe:

==== the filters (that exist saved in standard probe ui) either do not seem to apply reliably, (or on refresh?), or do not apply in a way that makes sense. they are broken. they do not filter.

= becomes paralysed (frame/ps lock <1) when probing around 900 ship targets, with attendent drones, towers, mods, etc. (gf780/i7-4790k/ssd/16g - this isn't me, it's you)
== visual clutter, overlapping spheres etc in this situation makes it a hundred times worse.

-- location of 'me' isn't sufficiently highlighted in the map
-- bookmarks aren't visible enough in the map.
-- beacons etc, aren't visible enough, etc
-- the overview does not highlight the relevant things within the map

> basically, I can't find what I'm looking for even a quarter as easily, even when I know what and where.

+ keybind for activating probe scan is useful
+ easier to drag, place probes and change scan size region
+ it zooms in far enough around planets (moons) to id tower locations (unlike what the 'full' beta map allow/ed)
+ I can effectively use this probing interface in real situations (mostly) and more or less, even like it.

> would be sugar and spice, if it allows snap probe center to nearest planet or hit.

# (f10 toggle the probing map >> is f9)

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Thank you.

That's an idea, I scan a lot in thousands of systems, when I scan I ignor all signatures that I'm not intersting, but when I return I need to scan again same signatures because I don't remember all of them, is possible to make something that once that I ignore a signature to be always that signature ignored?

Probe results are way too hard to see against the probe bubble graphic, eg https://i.imgur.com/5rzqT3O.png.

Reconnect to lost probes in the new interface is not functional or just buggy.
I suffered a (too common now) socket closed and upon logging back in was unable to reconnect to my probes. I could see them on Dscan but was unable to reconnect until I switched back to the old scanning interface.

If you DC and have probes out, those probes will be lost. The game loses track of them. Basically the game doesn't have time to recall them as it does if you jump a gate, jump a wormhole, dock up, etc etc. It's not a recent issue, it's been there since CCP change the probing in Odyssey

The same thing happens if you have probes out at downtime and you get kicked offline

It's abit annoying, hence keep spares with you at all times

Sorry, for what it´s worth I agree with you, but this was a "majority rules" decision, and too many found it distracting. It might get revisited later but we have moved on from it for now.