EVE General Discussion

No kidding. Even with the fit button I still spend hours fitting ships if I intend to do a big set of ganks. I couldn't imagine how much time people are spending fitting gank ships for code.

Not to mention the 10-20 accounts required compared to the 2-3 accounts required.

Yeah they really need to fix the prospect.

Recently, while grinding some ISK on my mission alt, I have been targeted by a group of gankers looking for a blingy battleship to kill. Simply by identifying those gankers (adding anyone who turns flashy in local to red) along with casual usage of dscan, I have been able to avoid all of their attempts so far. It's so easy, and all it requires is to be somewhat alert.

There is no science or any real intelligence behind the current wave of high sec ganking. The gankers are not bothered about what ships they lose nor are they really bothered about the value of the ship they kill. What they want is for the victim to rant in local so they can laugh at them and "harvest tears". The punishment is you lose status and your ship. Punishment is only a punishment if it prevents further occurrences, otherwise it becomes a cost. Punishments should be increased every time it occurs with each punishment being more severe than the last. There will come a time when the punishment stops the individual from breaking rules in high sec. Basically of an in place punishment does not stop the crime it needs to be increased. High sec rules and laws are made by npc factions but in null it's up to pc's to punish any transgressors.

You are basically saying, to play EVE (competitively) well you need to have no life and play EVE all day and every day. I don't make 500mil a day I can tell ya.. unless I have luck with loot drops.

This thread is an advertisement for CODE / ganking, with a few people pointlessly trying to argue a counter-point "rationally."

Main trouble is not that you can't do anything. The problem is that victims don't do anything.
I looked at white knighting more than once. All the time it was ignorance what killed people.
Hell, I've seen one very funny Orca gank. It ultimately failed, with Orca leaving chewie wrecks at whole 30% structure. You know, DCII and bulkheads happened.

Why am I telling you this? Because it's a very good example how efforts of one man of protecting himself screwed up long waiting and coordination, as well as considerable ammount of ships and, most important, self-respect of the whole fleet. They trashed Orca pilot for half of the hour, lol. I think Orca instantly paid off it's price in the best currency — fun.

Hitting those numbers requires several bling ships to cover all burner possibilities and a bling ship for regular 4s. Your choice in ships for the regular level 4 mission side of thing is limited by the requirement for high dps and speed (prop mod speed, warp speed, align speed). Blitzing with bling is the only way to make that kind of isk in 3 hours assuming you're including everything in that time quote and not just starting the timer once you're doing the first mission while excluding all the time you're doing maintenance related stuff which doesn't directly pay (setup/resupply/lp conversion stuff/etc). Blitzing limits the missions you can run too so you need to have Vs in all social related skills (standing/lp pay/ isk pay/etc). Bling clones are required too which further exposes you. There's a good amount of time needed to get a character up to the point where it can do such things. T2 weapons and such are required. The isk required to be invested in ships also presents a challenge for casuals starting up.

So what I'm saying is most people cannot make that kind of isk running 4s and data released by CCP confirms that.

Also those numbers rely heavily on LP values that are overpriced currently and have been falling in value for a while. If more people engaged in that activity then the LP values would plummet even faster.

That's mining you're thinking of.

It's almost like people talking about how great they are on the internet exaggerate or something.