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Two quick things:

1. Is there a way to invert the alt+scroll wheel probe resizing so that scrolling up increases probe range instead?

2. Is there a way to remove the red dot at the center of the sigs when viewing all sigs in the map? Maybe having it in the markers section? (They seem to just get in my way).

Other than that love the new scanners. Sorry if my questions are repeats, I tried finding them in the thread first and couldn't.

Thanks.

Eve evolves but I plead with you, on bended knee, to find a way to leave the 'vintage' scanning system as an option in the settings panel.

it can be done.

See earlier responses in the thread to get answers to all of these points. Sorry, don't have the time to retype them all.

Never thought I'd ever say this, but you were so committed to this thread that it takes ages to just read your posts in here :p

Anyway, I read now most of them and it seems that the issue of probe moving didn't get enough attention. Don't you agree as a scanner that it is way too fiddly to move the probes? We have to precisely hit the arrows or the top of the cube, even if other things don't pop up and take the focus. This was true in the old system and somehow even more precision is now required in the new system. It would be far better if the system always first assumed we want to move our probes, and only with very precise positioning over something else we would NOT move the probes. So a reversal of the current behaviour.

Or, like I said, hotkeys that force 'probe moving mode' regardless of current cursor position.

Thank you for listening and taking the time to answer all these questions. I finally got to hop on and try the new scanner, and as far as I can tell it replicates all the old scanner functionality while doing new stuff and looking better. It's also really neat to see the suggestions in this thread built into it. The only problems I am having now relate to un-learning five years of hotkeys and mouse movements.

Also, thank you for making Escape the key that closes the new probing window. You have no idea how happy seeing escape actually do its job in Eve for once makes me.

As someone who scans to live and lives to scan, I gave the new probe scanning feature a good try. However, I seemed to continually run into an issue where when I tried to grab the "box" to move the group of probes I would instead get the Probe 1 pop up and therefore be unable to move the box at all. I was using the predefined probe pattern when having this issue. I also wasn't able to consistently grab the arrows of the box in an effort to try to move the box in a slower manner. This rendered the whole interface unusable to me and I had to switch back to the old version.

Either I was doing something wrong (entirely possible) or this is a problem with the new system that should be addressed.

Feature request for probing:
Remove the toggle between AU/km and give us the old seperate value windows.
I am having to constantly switch between both when using PLH (pirates little helper) to scan out results and hand entering AU ranges.

The text box is also behaving oddly as compared to the old dscan window. we use to be able to just enter a value and hit enter - Receive scan results. Now I have to noticed that hitting enter after changing the range doesn't keep the same function and it tends to cause a client error alert tone. I'll have to click off the value box and then manually hit the scan button or the key bound to toggle the refresh.

The filters don't seem to work properly. I have the filter set to show only cosmic sigs and ships and yet I get results for POS mods all over the place.

I think I will echo the sentiment of a lot of veteran players who used the old scanning interface with this post.

I only started in EVE not long ago, but I've done a decent amount of probing. High-stakes combat probing is not something I've done yet, but I will be doing that kind of stuff in the future. I started going into wormholes when I was still on trial, drawn by the heightened danger and the fact that I didn't have much to loose. I didn't even have a cloak, either, much less an idea what I should fit the ship like.

http://imgur.com/j5zGsJW.png

Let's start with the standard old interface. I will point out what I like, and what I don't like.

http://imgur.com/oFv2Wau.png

Like the first image, signatures are readily visible and clearly obvious. It's not much to look at, and it's fairly simplistic, but it works, as we all know. The only thing that really made me pissed off was the unpredictability of the arrows to zoom off into really really far off directions. Other than that, it was quick to load, so when I first entered a wormhole, I would (well, not until I got a cloak that is, and learned what to do) quickly check the overview for anything on grid, then check d-scan, then quickly launch probes, move them far off the map and press Scan. Key sequence: Alt - P, F10, drag out, scan, F10 again, go back to checking D-scan.

Now the new one is a little more complicated. First, it has background riff-raff that doesn't serve a useful purpose in combat probing. I have a target, and I have a responsibility to get him, and it doesn't help when dots are difficult to see (still) and there is more clutter to look at.

http://imgur.com/wNl7pmN.png

Those arrows you get when you adjust the size of the probes are redundant and unnecessary. More clutter. Note the low brightness of the green dot. In the old interface, it was pretty obvious. Make MUCH more obvious. (Have you tried hunting drones with the new interface? It's nearly invisible!)

Again. What am I looking at again? Where...Oh there it is. Brighter. Brighter. (Bright-o?)

http://imgur.com/tklqdlI.png

Another image. Again, I probably could have scanned all this stuff out faster if it was more obvious.

http://imgur.com/ZqY0yDS.png

Much color, background stuff which doesn't make my job any better, fancy sun rendering (???), starfield background which does me no good, and signature results which are harder to see. Please consider these recommendations.

Also. You can see that recently someone decided we need .001 resolution on the directional scanner. Please change it back to the way it was before where nobody had a problem with it in .1 resolution (1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4.... instead of 1.001, 1.002, 1.003, ...) every time I click the arrows. Likewise I don't know if they've made the solid colors through the signatures instead of the silly thin line beneath each entry but it should be changed.

I made a report, but I'm not sure if it got reviewed. The Tab key does something to collapse windows. Can we rebind it to something else more useful? I would love to have it assigned to the directional scanner "SCAN" button.

Personally I wish the visual directional scan feature never came out. :)

Couple of things:

As before I wish you would make the filter selection modal - i.e let me select a single filter from a list of canned and predefined ones, rather than making me deselect the current filter and select a new one. I rarely want to make up a brand new filter on the fly - usually what I want to do is switch between a couple that I know (say for Sig -> Ship or Ship -> Structures) - this used to take a single action, and now takes two. If I need a brand new filter, I can always define it.

Secondly, the colour on the spheres when scanning is really way way too bright/prominent. Try scanning inside a shattered wormhole with many sigs in roughly the same place - you can easily get to the point where it is virtually impossible to see the drag arrows for the probe windows.

Some of the informational icons also seem to be a little big - if you get several near each other it becomes hard to select between them.