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Not if you dock it it isn't
Your complaint is that in a tiny edge case you will have to go to a little more bother to get a Citadel that you can dock at, over the span of 1-2 years to get that little more bother solved. They are not removing POS the second Citadels come into the game.
And if you can't get a freighter into the WH, you built the Capitals inside the hole to begin with, so deal with it to keep the advantage over anyone entering your hole without capitals.

Agreed, no need to make more stuff that can be farmed in a portion of space. Want new materials? Add them to all security spaces and make them hard to get ( and not farmable by carriers, ishtars.... )

Been playing this sim since 2005 off and on. Don't let the newbie toon fool you. I'm now a retired Canadian and finally have the time to play again. Mostly, I solo with the occasional get together with a couple friends. Lest you doubt my commitment you should know I spent $300 last month on account renewals, multi training, and plex for corporation upgrading. That represents my entire entertainment budget for the month! Now that I'm up and running the real life cost will be less.

I applaud the efforts of this team to substantially upgrade the whole POS experience. Lots of eyecandy , new functionality, and safety upgrades. Looking good all round but..... I'm concerned about the cost and the effect on very low population corporations. I have a solution.

In real life, everyone wants a brand new car but most of us drive the clunker we can afford. If we were forced to replace our old cars with new ones, a lot of us would be walking. It should be no different with Starbases vs Citadels. I see no reason why you can't keep the existing Starbases for us poor folk even though you're introducing the latest greatest models. In real life, the new models replace the old ones only when the market dictates.

You've done a great job here. There are plenty of very desired features in Citadels. Don't forcibly remove structures from the game over any designated time frame. Allow the market to do its work.

Let the market decide when or if the old style Starbase structures get reprocessed to build the shiny new Citadel.


Verok Na

You absolutely right!
I think mooring (not tethering!) is still the thing which developers should think of.
There are many situations when you just can`t place L or XL citadel. And when POSes and Outposts will be gone, we will have bunch of carriers/dreadnouts/rorquals "locked in space".
And this is a problem!
Anyone who says that it will be plenty of time are wrong beacause no matter how long you offline you must not be in worse position.
And ofcourse don't forget that carriers are the best way for small entities to travel with all you ships inside ship maintance hangar.
I think M citadels shoud have 3-5 mooring points for carriers/dreadnouts/rorquals. When ship moored you can access to your personal and corporation hangars in citadel thru assets tree (and vice versa when you docked) and of course eject and do anything else while your ship is moored. Visualy it will look like standart ship model attached to citadel (what we saw at presentation of citadels).

POS and Citadel Requirments

I'm a new player and heard you can mine moons with a POS. Then I read online that you have to set up a player corp to set up a POS.

When Citadel's are released will I be able to mine moons without setting up a player corp?
If I start a new alt now to set up a player corp will I be able to give my main permissions to fuel etc the POS?

Thank You for your time.

Citadels will still be corporation property, not player.

And for now, moon mining isn't changing.

Hopefully the change to moon mining will not be too far off.

If there is no station within 5ly you can use and you insist on only jumping via jump drive, and having the pilots able to dock rather than just tether, and only doing a single jump.
Then yes that is how it will work.

Of course you could travel via gates.
You could tether at a medium then log off in space.
You could simply log off in space.
You could wait out the fatigue timer at a safe or logged off then jump again.

There are many ways around it.

No

Can Structure components built now, be used to construct the Structure hull after the release of the citadel hull bpo? (spring?) As they appear now there is a difference in materials from what was proposed in the "Building your Citadel, one block at a time" materials. With the addition of fuel blocks and the added materials, it pushes the cost upwards to produce the comps? or am i missing something?