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And if the point you are trying to make is in fact true, is it really that hard to prevent EWAR hulls from fitting these in their high slots?

Take a moment, take EWAR hulls out of the equation. Now do you really think it will be that much of a problem?

When can we expect these to be on SiSi for testing?

What Day One of Amarr Championships told us?

1) never bring TD *even on bonussed hulls* vs guaranteed opponent's turret setup, you'll be better off with ECM/dumps or one more DPS ship.
2) Unbonussed TD? Why even bother?
3) If you *belive in TDs* and bring it in its perfect matchup, enjoy its uselessness and get rekd by unbonussed ECM or one more line ship that ignoring your EWAR by just pressing "keep at 500"

ECM burst.. Your dead.

This is so irrational. The whole point of missiles vs turrets was that they were different. Now youve got missile tracking computers and missile tracking disruptors? That doesn't make any sense. Why even have missiles?

1. If your bonused TD isn't working, you're doing it wrong.

2. agreed.

3a. unbonused ECM overpowered too huh? Dear Lord, please stay off the paranoia cereals for a week or so. Yes it does land the occasional jam. It is after all chance based. That chance however is very slim, so you are complaining said module does its job every once in a blue moon? I for one wouldn't count on a lone unbonused ECM to save my life.

3b. "keep at 500" improves tracking. It also makes You easier to hit for the very same reason. Your argument mainly illustrates your utter lack of comprehension on how to properly use a tracking disruptor. I'll walk you through it in a nutshell:

against short-range weapons, use Optimal Range scripts. Watch DPS markedly go down.
against long-range weapons, use Tracking Disruption scripts. Watch snipers hit for ****.
against being unable to keep the enemy at range, use the appropriate module - eg Web, scram. A Tracking disruptor cannot save you when neither tracking speed nor optimal range can be disrupted. When that is the case, the culprit is poor range dictation. Fit nano, dualprop, secundary web, polycarbon engine housing but don't expect the TD to simply "invalidate that guy's turrets over there". As you pointed out: the savvy pilot can and will work around it. Even if that means setting himself up to receive more damage from you.

To be entirely honest, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make... but I think I hear somebody complaining becoz Falcon. Allow me to raise one last counter-argument to set the record straight. Crucifiers, Arbitrators, Curses and Pilgrims deal decent DPS, supported by TD for defense. Yes you read the correct: the TD is essentially part of their tank. Griffins, Blackbirds, Rooks and Falcons on the other hand do bubkes for damage. Zilch. Nada. They are paperthin to boot. Their ONLY purpose is to ECM the everloving crap out of everything, and it takes no less than 4 mids, 2 lows and 2 rigs to really start packing a punch. What it boils down to, is that one should not only judge the module, but also the hull this module is intended for. I will grant you that Tracking Disruptors have a less dramatic impact than ECMs, although combined with the shiphull this balances out quite nicely.

TDs are okay. They're not magic, nor are they intended to be. If you claim you can't see a tangible difference with or without, then please get out of the Crucifier's cockpit and let someone else drive it for you.

Because scheduled tournaments with rules, limited points, limited pilots, ship bans and a 100km radius arena are so representative of the overall meta of the game. Right.

TDS are fine. They're good enough as is and we definitely don't need a "one module fits all" thing going on with missile scripts on a single TD module.

Edit: Since you seem to believe TDS would be perfect in tournaments, let me explain why they're not.

Reasons to use TDS:
They neuter turret ships.

Reasons not to use TDs: missiles and drones are a thing, and unless the enemy DPS is exclusively turrets you've picked an inefficient EWar.

Reasons to use other Ewar:
TPs: they make enemy ships bigger, letting literally every weapon type apply damage more effectively to any ship.
Webs: slow down enemy support keeping it from getting into range of your DPS, slow down any ship increasing the damage application of every weapon type.
Damps: force enemy snipers into close range, shut off enemy support, force logi in closer, complete range control. This is even more powerful given you get to choose warp in range.
ECM: have a chance to shut off any target at any range. This is extremely powerful, but completely RNG dependent.

I always love replies where not one thing I said is addressed ;-) You didn't bring a TD so it sucks balls? Yup. I can totally see that. I didn't bring a Gila either so you can imagine what a crappy boat it is. I'll be honest: I didn't watch the tournament. Because burn empire burn. But I have been an EWAR pilot since like forever, so please do tell me what You think is wrong with the TD in its current state. Not what you've seen on television or whatnot -- did you personally use it, and if so, how did it fail you?

I'll give you another thing to ponder: is there any situation where TDs (on their appropriate hull, mind you) trump other EWARs? Sure there is! Brawling comes to mind. ECM? Too thin. Damps? May hinder target acquisition somewhat, but again nope. Target Painters? Yeah, that helps; although you'll rely on someone else to apply the deeps. Tracking Disruptors? Boss! Good tanks, good damage output, mitigates incoming damage ... what's not to love?

Here's another one: TDs are generally more useful in small gangs, where you don't have enough numbers to make damps count or you'd lose too much DPS in dedicated EWAR pilots. Quite useful against larger ships whose tracking is already struggling, yet which also happen to have targeting range in abundance.

Now, to get back on topic: if one were to include missile disruption scripts into TDs as well, they would be too versatile and start overpowering the other EWARs.

(and no, a simple reference to a match where allegedly no TD was used won't talk you out of this one son. "lolwut" is about as useful as not posting at all). Good day to you too, Sir.

3rd option more than likely. They're already going to receive additions to their bonuses to include MD's once they are released, no reason to give them extra mids considering how powerful these will be unbonused versus a missile boat. The choice of having a seperate MD module versus a script for TD's has already been addressed.

May have already been answered, but I assume that the optimal range and falloff of these new missile disruptors are the same as with the current turret disruptors, given they will be using the same skills.

Much the same with fitting requirements, are they going to be much the same as what the turret disruptors are? I would like to think so.