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Fact remains that Citadels can be much more easily destroyed than a POS. And Citadels won't need to take up a moon. They can be anchored anywhere in space.

Since the cap for a medium is 4000dps, bring 4 sentry domis and have at it. If you don't feel the reward is worth the time, don't. Your choice.

Will there be new skills to control structure weapons, and if so when will be able to find out the details / pre-reqs?

That will be a first, we were never given SP back when DSP's were taken out of the game or when you no longer needed anchoring 5 to train starbase defense.

Because the skill still existed in the game and did other things for you.
Any time CCP have actually removed a skill from the game entirely they have refunded it.

Though they may decide it makes more sense to turn it into one of the related skills for citadels, who knows.

Just because you had no use for the features doesn't mean they didn't exist.
CCP have been entirely consistent on their approach in such cases, and yes, some people do end up with things they wouldn't have trained. I don't need Anchoring V myself and would have never trained it, but I did want Starbase Defence Management, and judged Anchoring V worth training for that. And so did you.

Converting faction towers to skins for citadels would be a cheap and cost effective compromises to the player base. No direct long term value would be added to the game and the functional cosmetic nature of the skins would satisfy a majority of POS owners.

Okay then. Questions, comments, concerns, ideas.

1) Has it been decided whether Large Citadels will take freighters to deploy or not? CCP keep flip flopping on it and I'd really like a concrete answer so I know whether or not I need to start building a freighter in my wormhole. I'd obviously like them to be deployable by orca, but whichever way it is, we need a concrete answer so we can start preparing.

2) Has there been talk about how large citadels will be built? Currently there is no POS structure large enough to build one inside. Meaning for wormholers, they have to bring in a medium and build the large at the medium, that's a bit of a pain in the ass. I'd like if there was a temporary structure introduced for poses that let us build the new structures at them, just to ease the transitional period.

3) When you anchor a citadel, it instantly becomes invulnerable for 24 hours. This means a ninja-hauler can jump into your system, drop the citadel, and run and hide. They don't have to defend it, and they know exactly when the 15 minute window is after that 24 hour period, so they can have their fleet ready. In a wormhole the only counterplay to this would be to maintain hole control for the entire time and keep them from slipping a fleet inside. I really feel that there should be some immediate vulnerability period when you first start anchoring the structure. The system defenders should have a chance to totally headshot the fetal citadel if you don't protect it for say, the first 15-30 minutes. Having a short vulnerability window like towers do, it forces the attackers to actually invest forces in protecting and securing a beachhead.

4) When drilling rigs totally change the mechanics of moon mining, can we get moon mining in wormholes? I'm assuming it will be a much more active process then the current "set up tower > profit" is, so I think it could be balanced with wormholes in mind.

The last devblog specifically said L and XL citadels would require a freighter to deploy, and this was intentional for lower class wormholes. However they won't be on TQ for at least 4 months yet, so there's plenty of time to source a freighter hull yet.


This also seems to be intentional by CCP. There's also no point in introducing new POS structures when the whole point of Citadels is as the first step to superseding them. Eventually all POS will be removed, so any new add-on for them will be a temporary solution at best and only serve to help entrench people who use older, easier game mechanics over those who come later.


I believe they have said that newly anchored structures would show on global overview until secured. This gives everyone nearby a chance to notice and prepare to deal with a new structure.

Right now, you can light in tether range, so you are safe......

However, that is not a done deal


One other suggestion is to light in tether range, but combat ships (JF, freighter and rorqual exempt) get a 60 sec weapons timer when they jump in