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What is CCP giving to The Mittani?

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mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
#1 - 2015-11-03 19:11:01 UTC  |  Edited by: mech res
According to the Mittani, CCP is backing his book regarding his alliance evicting test. He has posted that CCP is supporting and backing this project.

I am curious if this is more than just moral support. From what I see it appears to mostly be that. But if it goes beyond that, I would like to know how much support CCP is giving to this player's endeavors.

Here is an example of a quote from the mittani:

"When CCP, Jeff Edwards and The Mittani Media decided to collaborate in writing science fiction thrillers based on the stories created in EVE Online, we knew that this would be only the first of many epic stories we would tell. Combining the remarkable writing talent of Jeff Edwards with the strength and support of CCP Games and The Mittani Media, this book is destined to captivate science fiction, action, suspense, and military fiction fans everywhere."
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-11-03 19:13:30 UTC
CCP give Mittani no ban.
CCP Falcon
#3 - 2015-11-03 19:13:56 UTC
Licensing for the book to use the EVE Universe IP.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

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Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#4 - 2015-11-03 19:21:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
mech res wrote:
According to the Mittani, CCP is backing his book regarding his alliance evicting test. He has posted that CCP is supporting and backing this project.

I am curious if this is more than just moral support. From what I see it appears to mostly be that. But it goes beyond that, I would like to know how much support CCP is giving to this player's endeavors.

Here is an example of a quote from the mittani:

"When CCP, Jeff Edwards and The Mittani Media decided to collaborate in writing science fiction thrillers based on the stories created in EVE Online, we knew that this would be only the first of many epic stories we would tell. Combining the remarkable writing talent of Jeff Edwards with the strength and support of CCP Games and The Mittani Media, this book is destined to captivate science fiction, action, suspense, and military fiction fans everywhere."


they better write about how I extracted goontears in VFK for months, the fountain war, just a reason to escape my torpedos

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#5 - 2015-11-03 19:23:58 UTC
I don't see why a book needs to be written about it seeing as how my Alliance didn't want that Fountain anyways.

Prior to that I was in NCDot when we didn't want Tribute so we let Goons have it while only pretending to fight back also. It's really weird, Goons showing up makes me stop wanting things all the time Twisted
Nysero Vaenthrak
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-11-03 19:30:12 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Licensing for the book to use the EVE Universe IP.



Well I guess that explains it.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#7 - 2015-11-03 19:30:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Fanny-Basher wrote:
while your on the topic of goons i belive ive read a post where it seems goons capture players ip addresses and try to narrow down who is who and ddos fc's and people when they need to it seems goons are rubbing alot of players up the wrong way also the ganking in hisec the punishments are not enough its crazy that hisec is not as safe as one would think or expect i unsubbed and just wanted to see if it was worth coming back :)

Firstly, tinfoil.
Secondly, run on sentence ahoy.
Thirdly, hisec is only as safe as you make it for yourself.

Lastly, that name Roll

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-11-03 19:38:01 UTC
What's worrisome is with the monetization of eve player stories, expressing your opinion of what took place in your personal eve history will open you up to legal action.

How far is this going to go? Will lawyers be patrolling reddit, mmorpg forums demanding moderators take down AARs and commentaries of battles and strategic actions because this or that guy wrote a book that covers what you're talking about?

Will there be copyright infringement actions taking place because eve players go into detail regarding their experiences or their perception of actions that took place?

Hit with libel for contradicting the written words of authors with their own idea of what actually took place?

How far down does this rabbit hole go?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2015-11-03 19:49:46 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
What's worrisome is with the monetization of eve player stories, expressing your opinion of what took place in your personal eve history will open you up to legal action.

How far is this going to go? Will lawyers be patrolling reddit, mmorpg forums demanding moderators take down AARs and commentaries of battles and strategic actions because this or that guy wrote a book that covers what you're talking about?

Will there be copyright infringement actions taking place because eve players go into detail regarding their experiences or their perception of actions that took place?

Hit with libel for contradicting the written words of authors with their own idea of what actually took place?

How far down does this rabbit hole go?


CCP owns you and your stories already.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-11-03 19:51:46 UTC
Yes, and so far they've not had a reason to stop us from telling them.

Now with the monetization through books of player stories, will this be the catalyst that initiates active censorship?
mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
#11 - 2015-11-03 19:53:00 UTC  |  Edited by: mech res
CCP Falcon wrote:
Licensing for the book to use the EVE Universe IP.




Thanks for the information. If this is as far as it goes, I am glad ccp is doing this - assuming they would do this for other players and not just one.

Is that as far as the support goes?

Saying CCP is "collaborat[ing]" with the mittani and the author seems to imply a bit more. But those are the mittani's words not CCP's and I have learned to take his word with a grain of salt.
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#12 - 2015-11-03 19:53:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
CCP owns you and your stories already.


CCP owning them and CCP giving those rights to other players are two completely different things.
Nafensoriel
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-11-03 19:58:27 UTC
Yeah its getting mildly disturbing that people today assume all game IP lore doesn't belong to the developer. They own the EVE world.. to do anything EVE related CCP needs to give you their nod of approval or explicitly state you can play in their proverbial sandbox of dreams.


Also Mittens Gets Kittens.
Oh come on.. admit it Kittens even make putin look soft and cuddly. Grr goons to aww kittens.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2015-11-03 20:00:58 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Yes, and so far they've not had a reason to stop us from telling them.

Now with the monetization through books of player stories, will this be the catalyst that initiates active censorship?


Given that one of the main fleets in that story has my name if there was an issue I would the first in line to kick up a stink about it.
mech res
Fwaction Warfare Corporwation
#15 - 2015-11-03 20:02:48 UTC  |  Edited by: mech res
Nafensoriel wrote:
Yeah its getting mildly disturbing that people today assume all game IP lore doesn't belong to the developer. They own the EVE world.. to do anything EVE related CCP needs to give you their nod of approval or explicitly state you can play in their proverbial sandbox of dreams.


Also Mittens Gets Kittens.
Oh come on.. admit it Kittens even make putin look soft and cuddly. Grr goons to aww kittens.



CCP can legally do what it wants with its property. That includes spawning and giving certain alliances perks like tech 2 bpos, or supporting their propaganda efforts to promote themselves or their alliances.

But that doesn't mean CCP should do those things. And I think players are within their rights to at least ask what extent ccp is doing this.
Nafensoriel
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-11-03 20:18:34 UTC
Key fact about consumerism.. If you keep giving them money you accept the terms of what they provide.
We keep giving them money.. so all those things kinda don't matter.
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-11-03 20:39:38 UTC
mech res wrote:
Nafensoriel wrote:
Yeah its getting mildly disturbing that people today assume all game IP lore doesn't belong to the developer. They own the EVE world.. to do anything EVE related CCP needs to give you their nod of approval or explicitly state you can play in their proverbial sandbox of dreams.


Also Mittens Gets Kittens.
Oh come on.. admit it Kittens even make putin look soft and cuddly. Grr goons to aww kittens.



CCP can legally do what it wants with its property. That includes spawning and giving certain alliances perks like tech 2 bpos, or supporting their propaganda efforts to promote themselves or their alliances.

But that doesn't mean CCP should do those things. And I think players are within their rights to at least ask what extent ccp is doing this.


Butthurt is strong in this one.

Been around since the beginning.
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-11-03 20:55:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Aoife Fraoch
CCP also supported the History of Great Empires as well. But I guess that looks less controversial. Perhaps they are happy to help projects that look sound, have a good chance of success and extend their visibility?

Or we can all just find some tinfoil attire and grr.
SilentAsTheGrave
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-11-03 20:59:22 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Licensing for the book to use the EVE Universe IP.


Will there be punishment handed out for mittens being caught RMTing via the Kickstarter? Or was that part of the deal setup with CCP and it gets him a free pass? Not trying to start ****, but the community deserves to know what is going on considering CCP has been giving perma-bans for the exchange of real money for in game items before.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#20 - 2015-11-03 21:01:14 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Licensing for the book to use the EVE Universe IP.



Guess that explains the 150,000 $. What?
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