Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bouncing an idea:

If null/low/high space gate can/would/coul be connected into wormhole, then make the gate in the wormhole only anchorable next to a station/pos that you plan to put there, like 200-300km off of it.

That way people outside would need to cooperate with people on the inside of the wormhole.

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Observatory Arrays focus on intelligence gathering and disruption tools, like tampering with Star Map filters, D-scan disruption, ship intelligence disruption, player tracking capabilities or being able to pinpoint cloak users

The only real issue i have with this part is cloak users. I'm becoming more and more aware that the changes you are instigating are making life for solo blops even more difficult. The jump fatigue reduction on the battleships was nice, but not enough for battleships that need to keep moving or die from extreme stargate camping. It is HARD enough trying to catch people who actually have common sense. Now your going to give them a tool that actively shows up the people hunting them?
If that really is the case, what was the point of that keynote a while back about nullsec ratters making too much money and getting security status?

On top of this, you screwed us hard with an earlier change to wormhole connections to nullsec, to prevent force projection (fair enough) But i dont suppose it occurred to you to limit the maximum jumpable mass of null connections so that subcapital ships can still roam and make null dangerous. As opposed to the iron fortress you seem to want it to become.

Having a module that briefly charges up then detonates in a 100km radius around the activating ship, causing nearby cloaked ships to decloak would seem to be a much more effective soloution without compromising the people who dont afk camp blockade. We just hunt slowly and safely but we get penalised as if we are afk campers? Not cool.

The other bonuses however i think are great from a strategic point of view, and could make for some insane mechanical plays..

Except when you then realise that you can get any of that info from third party (i assume) anyway. In which case, why build these structures when google is so much easier?

You seem to give alot of tasty stats in the hope of us approving, But as of yet i dont feel like your really selling these structures. Even in the last post, nobody was quite sure why anyone would want to forgo a pos for a structure like this (or those deployable labs) when the cost would be higher and the potential for spam is high.

First off, I never said it wwas a mine, i said it could be a module, similar to ECM burst or smartbombs, just specialised in disrupting cloaks. so that you can atleast check that your not being watched.

Second, i actually do agree with you on your statement regarding the "30m" rule, perhaps cloaks being on grid for a prolongued amount of time slowly start building up some kind of scan signiture. My issue is that regardless of how it is put, it takes long expeditions into nullsec to get results allready. now im not saying that you should get kills round every corner (thats not healthy gameplay or fun)

However i am saying that from a risk/reward perspective, the sheet has gone from (Travel to null> move around region> check locals>gank>leave) to (go to null on the odd chance you find a wormhole going through a much more dangerous chain, only to get "possibly" instantly detected and destoyed) whilst the 3 month old characters are sat farming some officer spawn merrily without concern. Now if black ops battleships were immune to this scan, i wouldnt have a problem. (because the main threat of afk cloakers is that afk bomber/t3 with cyno) where as if the blops pilot is in system, its likely that people are setting traps up anyway

So lets try an alternative, lets make scan inhibitors able to Block this scan, until they either expire or are destroyed by defending forces, that was there is atleast some kind of defense against it without it not being counterable

With the observatory array's is this just towards hostiles, or is this anyone not in the carp/alliance?

What about wormhole usage?

http://millionthvector.blogspot.com/

The image above is from Millionth Vectors blog.

The structure could be used for what I am hoping CCP will do to the game is to open up unexplored space. Well space that hasn't been discovered yet. Similar to W-Space but would require the structure above to built in any known sector of New Eden except for W-Space.

The station would then lock onto coordinates from the outside of New Eden known territory and allow a constructor ship to jump to the coordinates and then build another such gate to complete the link allowing ships to explore the unknowns outside of New Eden.

Or the structure could be used as personally created gate much larger though.

The ships would enter in through the docking extension and then be held in a hangar waiting bay until it was their time to be transported to the connecting structure. Larger facilities would have more Jump Arrays and could process ships at a much faster rate but would expensive to support an maintain.

This could be a very interesting concept.. if it's possible.

But is this something you would have to configure, or would it just block anyone not in the alliance? would alliance still see local?

More of this goes into previous discussions in relation to the sov holder not having the upper hand and something like this could shift it in a positive way.

If you still left it open for blues,, you'd have the upper hand over the enemy who instead of getting a local heads up and jumping to the first belt/anom, they now have to take a few seconds and run the D-scan, and they may or may not pick up anyone on the first shot.

Definitely could make for some fun game play.

Observatory Arrays - regarding pinpointing cloaked ships
Yes - Improved/Prototype Cloaks
No - Covert Ops

If and only If they are using a non-covert ops cloak. Covert Ops cloaks should have an advantage of being undetectable
Regarding combat recons - they should be highly resistant to being observed or at least get a notification that they are being scanned.
Iterate on Black Ops Battleships - allow covert ops cloaks or give them a massive sig reduction while cloaked to allow for their role to be maintained.

Gates - In W-space:

Modifying Wormhole behavior
- More total mass (no increase in max mass/jump) z142 goes from 3B kg hole to 4B kg hole
- Add another static in C5/C6 to Shattered systems
Propulsion Modifying
-As K-space-
Mass Modifying
-could be fun?-

One of our guys in TEST yesterday noted that there are now CREST endpoints for new structures and services that have yet to be released. List below is for Observatory Services.

• Local Communications Array
• Stellar Mapping Array
• Capsuleer Tracking Array
• Scanner Array
• Listening Post
• Cloak Pinpoint Array
• Cynosural Jammer

Some of these look very promising, especially the Cloak Pinpointing Array and Capsuleer Tracking Array.

To quote another forumite: "Thinking the gankers will leave you alone if you don't defend yourself is like assuming the lions in the savannah will ignore you if you're fat, slow and look helpless."

This is EVE, there are no rules about not attacking carebears, if fact it's a very necessary part of the ecosystem, one that keeps prices for loot and PLEX in check by curtailing overproduction.

I can get behind increasing costs to some degree but making 10^n seems a bit steep. After all these are going to be structures, quite likely vulnerable to the entosis link. That should mitigate cost increases, IMO.