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[New structures] Market Hubs and Drilling Platforms

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Skorn Blacksword
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#241 - 2015-09-10 12:40:01 UTC
Would These Structures be deploy-able in W-Space? Making more gas/asteroid fields would be nice, but I'm thinking of mining a moon goo specifically. Many would argue that W-space is to safe for such work, but if it was limited to just the more common with an occasional decent one that wouldn't be a big deal would it? Acually as bloody the battles for good moons go in Low a decent moon in W-space would be a content battle field.

Any thoughts?
Anthar Thebess
#242 - 2015-09-10 13:29:57 UTC
Skorn Blacksword wrote:
Would These Structures be deploy-able in W-Space? Making more gas/asteroid fields would be nice, but I'm thinking of mining a moon goo specifically. Many would argue that W-space is to safe for such work, but if it was limited to just the more common with an occasional decent one that wouldn't be a big deal would it? Acually as bloody the battles for good moons go in Low a decent moon in W-space would be a content battle field.

Any thoughts?

I think there is to much WH moons.
Problem in contesting WH moons is that constantly changing connections makes them hard target to maintain for any one not dedicated to live in this specific system - and because of this they are to safe.

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Amyclas Amatin
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Goonswarm Federation
#243 - 2015-09-17 01:48:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
All I want to know is: can I entosis all of this stuff?

Or is fozziemechanics something that sov structures alone have to suffer.

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Supreme Authority
Not PurpIe Shoot It
ISK Positive
#244 - 2015-09-18 21:12:08 UTC
What are the odds of moons in wormholes becoming things that can be mined? Perhaps as a way to offset the downside that if we lose a citadel in there the only way to recover our possessions is by building another one. Not having the option to deliver them any other way is a pretty large penalty. Drilling platforms should also be forced to be built in a moons orbit as well in my opinion if used for that purpose. Seems lacking in continuity and unrealistic for moons to be able to be mined everywhere else in the game with no real reason given for it not working in J Space.

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Supreme Authority
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ISK Positive
#245 - 2015-09-19 01:35:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Supreme Authority
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Skorn Blacksword wrote:
Would These Structures be deploy-able in W-Space? Making more gas/asteroid fields would be nice, but I'm thinking of mining a moon goo specifically. Many would argue that W-space is to safe for such work, but if it was limited to just the more common with an occasional decent one that wouldn't be a big deal would it? Acually as bloody the battles for good moons go in Low a decent moon in W-space would be a content battle field.

Any thoughts?

I think there is to much WH moons.
Problem in contesting WH moons is that constantly changing connections makes them hard target to maintain for any one not dedicated to live in this specific system - and because of this they are to safe.

Sounds like it will encourage people to raid them for killmails knowing there is no sovereignty protection mechanisms. Which makes more content. I thought people liked content? Perhaps I am mistaken. There are moon goo siphons as well. Nothing is safe in EVE. Defenders destroying those is a second content opportunity, is it not? If we're going to rock the market with extreme changes (a la POS fuel) why not squeeze other changes in too?

Your point is that with doors that move the defender has the homefield advantage and the attacker would have to make a commitment of forces toward actions there. Is that not equally the case anywhere else in the game? The difference in J Space is that you're forced to log out inside the wormhole and not leave it for several days until the actions are over. I fail to see how that gives J Space residents much or any advantage over the arrangement in lowsec and null.

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Anthar Thebess
#246 - 2015-09-20 11:43:04 UTC
WH space is unique , and better leave it this way.
I don't think WH people want to have new WH bloobs that will focus on controlling most profitable WH moons.

Currently , excluding reactions, all isk from WH require active approach .

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#247 - 2015-10-04 19:01:07 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
WH space is unique , and better leave it this way.
I don't think WH people want to have new WH bloobs that will focus on controlling most profitable WH moons.

Currently , excluding reactions, all isk from WH require active approach .



Even running reactions in wh takes more activity than the pi


Moons need to stay bare in wormholes even though I would love cheaper hacs all areas of space need to be missing something they can only get from other areas


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Anthar Thebess
#248 - 2015-10-05 12:58:37 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
WH space is unique , and better leave it this way.
I don't think WH people want to have new WH bloobs that will focus on controlling most profitable WH moons.

Currently , excluding reactions, all isk from WH require active approach .



Even running reactions in wh takes more activity than the pi


Moons need to stay bare in wormholes even though I would love cheaper hacs all areas of space need to be missing something they can only get from other areas




Actually i hope for the same.
When i live in guristas space i can make cheap caldari ships, when i live in sansha space i can make cheap amarr ships.

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Justin Cody
War Firm
#249 - 2015-10-19 02:24:55 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
WH space is unique , and better leave it this way.
I don't think WH people want to have new WH bloobs that will focus on controlling most profitable WH moons.

Currently , excluding reactions, all isk from WH require active approach .


you're stupid. WH moons don't produce anything. They are all dead moons. biomass please
Erasmus Grant
Order of the Eclipse
Triumvirate.
#250 - 2015-10-26 11:16:55 UTC
Why not have sentry gun like system to go along with Citadels? That can be automated or be control by players.
Anthar Thebess
#251 - 2015-10-26 11:55:53 UTC
Justin Cody wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
WH space is unique , and better leave it this way.
I don't think WH people want to have new WH bloobs that will focus on controlling most profitable WH moons.

Currently , excluding reactions, all isk from WH require active approach .


you're stupid. WH moons don't produce anything. They are all dead moons. biomass please


What did i stated?
That idea about mining something from WH moons is bad?

The only passive income is from reactions, and you need to bring all from higsec.

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Drummie Care
Belgian Bunnies v5
#252 - 2015-10-26 12:12:34 UTC
Drilling platforms: If I understand it well, you can let the structure do the mining/harvesting? Awesome!
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#253 - 2015-10-27 12:12:13 UTC
Will the drilling platforms be anchorable in high sec systems Question

Will they be able to be used to compress ore in high sec systems Question

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DuskRaiders
#254 - 2015-10-27 20:47:27 UTC
Sense you are going to all this trouble to re-vamp the structures. I was curious how hard it would be to replace a vast majority of the current NPC run stations with player-owned stations that individuals can control (excluding main station hubs and new player stations of course). It could even be an auction system from the npc corporations. They then could also be tradable to others.

With this system those of use who love the management side of Eve can operate a station that others come to visit or live out of. We could possible also bid on mission npc's to work out of the station and collect taxes and fees. While placing orders for required materials to maintain the station.

Just a thought, but I would invest 100b isk if the long return reward would pay off.
Miss Iniquitous
Razing Demolitions
#255 - 2015-10-28 11:21:52 UTC
Question: Will Freighters and Jump Freighters be able to safely manage Drilling Platforms?
(Can they safely warp to the structure, manage it while being invulnerable to attack like you can at present when inside a POS shield?)

Miss Iniquitious
CCP Ytterbium
C C P
C C P Alliance
#256 - 2015-10-28 14:11:51 UTC
Removing sticky. Still want your feedback but we need room for other thread in this subforum. New pinned thread will be pointing to this one.
Lady Aesir
Ghost Recon Inc
#257 - 2015-11-01 23:44:13 UTC
Will a JF be able to dock in the M, L Citadels as setting a market will be very limited if not.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#258 - 2015-11-03 14:48:03 UTC
Lady Aesir wrote:
Will a JF be able to dock in the M, L Citadels as setting a market will be very limited if not.


They can dock in the large and XL citadels. They can only be tethered at the mediums.

In general, I think a lot of us would appreciate an update on the status of drilling platforms.

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Korbin Valenroth
Mom's Friendly Industrial Company
#259 - 2015-11-19 20:10:37 UTC
Just as a clarification, these citadels would be able to function as a freeport right? Access could be granted to the public in addition to corp or alliance pilots correct?
bp920091
Black Aces
Goonswarm Federation
#260 - 2016-02-11 07:59:21 UTC  |  Edited by: bp920091
Soldarius wrote:

In general, I think a lot of us would appreciate an update on the status of drilling platforms.


Good Luck, first reply from CCP that we got was about the sticky change. 6 months after they started the thread.

Look, I dont mind that you want to keep things under wraps. Can we at least get a rough ETA on how long Moon Mining and Reactions are going to be, even wildly off deadlines? i'm fine if it's in a general Calendar Quarter, and even off by 1-2 (ie, are we looking at Q3-4 2016, or Q1 2019). We dont need exact info, even just a rough timeframe would be helpful.

Even if you cant give answers, can you at least say "Yes, we've at least glanced at this thread once"