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Hmmm I tend to remember we stated after shields were gone. You make me doubt because I can see some crazy module swapping game in combat. Let me double-check and come back at you on that one.

Even during war decs your citadel will only have small windows of vulnerability during the week, so you might want to man it during that time and not there will be no automated defense in these.

I'm assuming ships can still scan citadels outside the vuln window though, so if you want to stop intel gathering in WH's for instance then an alt would be required to blap nosy parkers...

1. Where can we build a Large Citadel Hull?

The Blog says a Large Hull will need 127 Structure Components at 10'000 m3 per unit, that's a total of 1,27mio m3 without any ME modifier.
A Equipment Assambly Array has only 1mio m3 cargo capacity. That means it would not be possible to produce them at a POS.

Is this intended?

If No:
Adjusting the cargo of the Equipment Assambly Array (and ofc the Rapid one, in case someone would prefer to use it) could be a relatively simple solution.


2. 80'000 m3 and the need for a freighter



The Volume of the Large hull is listed with 80'000 m3.
That would also fit into a accordingly fitted Orca or Rorqual. (And after the Capital-rebalance perhaps also into resized fleethangars of carriers&dreads?)
I guess especially the Orca would violate your intention as it is able to travel into everything except class 1 WH's.

Some further explanations would be desired:
What is exactly meaned with 'low class wormhole space'?
Is the freighter-mandatory only intended for X-Large or for Large and X-Large?
What are the design-goals behind it?

More informations about that could possibly allow us to give more solution-oriented feedback.

NOTHING is automated defense

if citadel is not manned it will do NOTHING

I can answer the first.

Low-class wormhole space is C1-C4 noted for not allowing capital ships (and freighter) to enter them.

A simple yes or no will suffice. Is that 80k m3 figure correct or not?

I would really like to see that Outpost Construction 5 being a requirement for building the XL structures.
Some of us put a lot of days training into getting 5.
This isnt me being a bitter vet, but the requirement of 5 will give a nice bonus to the people who have trained it to 5 so that they can be used by the alliances and potentially gain some extra isk over people who havnt trained it.

So which one is oversight? Do we need orca or freighter for large citadel?

Also have any thought been put on replacement mechanics for current moon coverage in WH as defense mechanics? I remember during Structure Town Hall there was discussions about it and some proposal from CCP side but nothing mentioned about it in blog or during presentation.

During presentation there was (very brief) slide that showed that RF in WH will be shorter, but it was very quick so I could not look at it and it was not mentioned by presenter at all (something something only 24h for second rf???) Could You elaborate on how current plans for RF are loking, especially in WH?

Also have any thought been put on probplem of trust, access to player hangars by directors? With poses (unless You use those stupid personal hangars) thief can only take what he can cary by himself, everything else is in corporate structures accessible by directors. With new citadels he have unlimited personal hangar to take everything from Your corp You gave access too. We in WH use shared ships in many situations (no reason for EVERY member to get for example a WH-collapsing BS when you only need few for entire corp, better to have corp accessible ones). A thief or a spy would need to take those ships one at a time, now he just scoops them all to his hangar.

they stated from the beginning that this will be the end goal, all pos and player stations removed as more and more functionality is being migrated into new structures