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So this is basically slippery slope. That and claiming SP is a means of "buying your way out" of some anomalous thing, which somehow only a matter of SP makes or breaks. Also somehow forgetting how to do tasks you do on your alts? I'm not sure.

But mostly the idea that SP is a learning curve after understanding what to train, and further beyond the training queue at all, is terribly false. Once you know what you want skill wise the only "challenge" is waiting.

Thinking about this, I've pieced together multiple previously posted ideas.

Make it to where a character that has already trained said skill to 5, can "wipe" that skill effectively removing it from their head and placing it into one of the neural thingies. At that point, they can then sell that neural thingy on the market like an in game item. The prerequisite is having the previously required skillbooks, if any, either already be learned or be in the inventory ready to be learned. If Aurum is the key here, then the second option can still happen above, but make it an entire skill pack purchasable with Aurum on the store with varying levels of points, low, mid and high. That way if someone wants to purchase that pack, but wants to have the satisfaction of training it to perfect themselves, they can. And for those like me who are impatient and want instant gratification to enjoy the game can get the highest possible training pack and jump right into whatever we want.

Oh please, don't be so naive. New players will be a massive well of demand for the Packets, in order for older players to fill the demand they will have to buy the Extractors via Aurum.

It's a very roundabout way of doing it, but ultimately it comes down to CCP exploiting that initial demand for their own profit. It's not a demand they should be fulfilling, because of course every new player wants the shiny ships, the best skills. Every new player in every game wants the best, most powerful stuff. You don't actually give it to them. Goodness me.

That's not to say they shouldn't be trimming the fat in regards to boring (but often necessary) skills that have little interesting gameplay pay offs. There's so many long trains that have little at the end to show for it. Why aren't CCP focusing on making the skill progression more rewarding? Instead they are lining their pockets with the boredom of waiting, like every freemium iPhone game you ever heard of.

It appears that now is the time to take a much harder look at my MMO options; something I wasn't planning to do anytime soon.

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People dont quit eve because skill points prevent them to play. If something happens, it is not about the skill points but new players placement.

In my time of bring a true new player, it was harder to get by, but it was also an understandable fact it was hard to get by. The community ties to new players were stronger because it was a known fact that new players were starting. People had some kind of respect by rookies. Not everyone, but generally. I had people to guide me, I had people advise me.

As CCP start to soften the trial by fire from rookies, the veterans see no reason to make it themselves, and rookies also lose the sense of the respect they needed, and do not develop it themselves for those who will in turn be rookies for them.

That is also something WoW players knew a lot about in the space of few years.

You went from end game people sitting with rookies on Crossroads to train pvp to lolers sitting on major cities jumping from one instance to another.

The things about skill points is not something that had the attention it has today, because again, you cant put the firewall back when you have so many already past the point without it. You could not hold SP as a learning method anymore when you started making shortcuts in the form of buffing low sp requiring ships and nerfing high sp requiring ships.

That is the start of the problem. Most people didnt saw it comming when they started closing the gap of what you could fly and the damage you could do from different SP stand points. That made people aware that SP was debatable, was subject of change, dramatic change, ergo, it was reason to rage upon.

It is like credit card debt. You start paying one off of another for need, then soon your greed becomes need. Soon enough, your bill is only affordable by simply defaulting.

Well, first you enhance SP acquisition, then you nerf SP importance, then you close the SP need gap for stages of progression. Then when the actual skill vs the SP is too far to be solved by workarounds, you remove it entirely.

How soon you think that "Insta Capitals token" (like insta 80 in wow) will come to New Eden Store after Skill token has touched down ?

Even the words used are the same: "We want new players to be ready to enjoy high end content quicker".

I never said new players wouldn't want the packets, they just can't get them for aur as they aren't being sold for aur. That the demand may push vets to spend aur is a non issue as it's at best exploiting the customers who know what they are getting into and capable of making informed decisions.

At that point if the vets are being exploited it's their own fault.

As far as not giving things to people, it's not, it's putting a resource harvested by players out there to supply everyone's demand for it, like anything else on the market.

So one form of pay to win is okay but another isn't? Please explain to me how plugging in a skill and waiting and waiting and waiting for it to finish gives you a sense of accomplishment? It doesn't give me a sense of accomplishment. Beating a guy with links when i have none gives me a sense of accomplishment, escaping multiple nullsec camps when i'm being hunted gives me a sense of accomplishment I'm sure industry stuff for some folks gives them a sense of accomplishment. All it is for me is an unnecessary burden due antiquated game mechanics. And game evolution has be brought to the speed of a glacier because of the overwhelming out pour of tears from bittervets to CCP all spewing the same vomit about how it's pay to win, it's not fair because back in my day i didn't have this option, it ruins character development, blah blah blah, begging and pleading with CCP not to allow this type of mechanic in game.

To be honest good on CCP for putting this out there and hopefully it doesn't lose momentum due to all the haters.

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Except the way you "harvest" this resource is

1: Giving CCP your money for the account.
2: Waiting.
3: Giving CCP more of your money.

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Time for someone's Final Notice to be found at their desk just for entertaining this idea!

It's truly that seriously bad. Cause now, if this were to go through, those same dudes that are Eve rich and have 50 alt accounts WILL UNDOUBTEDLY Skill up all their ALTs and have 50 (Insert Titan name here) on the field.

So just to sum it up, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!