EVE General Discussion

Perspective is a big part as well. There is no denying eve is a game of tactics and patience. Yes, the good fights when they happen are pretty serious cause you don't have the respawn and are on a huge scale.

If eve wants to succeed, it really needs to be presented more of a long term strategy game. Eve is more RTS than anything, just every player is one of those many expendible units. People gotta come in knowing it is a game of patience, rewards and consequence then build off of that.

I earlier analogized eve to chess. New players are pawns in the correct historical definition. they are the foot soldiers which allow the more powerful units to get into position and project their power. They are expendable, but still important. So in a fight, should be masses of newbs dying, but their ships are easy to replace. If us veterans are supplying their ships and training, that will make the game from day 1 being fun and combative. Increased consumption of small items will improve things for the upstart industry groups. Eventually they get comfortable and self sustaining, upgrade to a prominent piece of power if they survive to the edge of the board.

There is one strength, a huge and massive strength! It was the hook that got me into eve.

A new player can be a vital asset to a long time veteran. Done, end of story.

How did I discover this? Pve, only a few days old, I was remote tracking linking an ally. Few days after that, I flew a griffin to get tackle on an in corp killer. Tackle and jammed long enough for other corpies to catch him before I was popped.

They bought me a new ship, happy dance, fun fun fun. That is eve's greatest strength. But CODE, and the elite PvPers push it to be this thing that news are weak and useless and come back at 30m sp. That really hurts eve. Yeah, can argue the whole bit about gank first and then say learn the game but that is a too late point.

Any player entering should have an orientation video as part of initial character creation

"Would you like to skip? Note, this is not a tutorial but vital information on how to survive eve and highly recommended"

Show players ganking, lowsec, nullsec. An easy to make three minute video when a player creates as a means of bringing the player into the game will quickly and clearly give a player knowledge about eve crime without the rage part.

Aaah, sorry about that, simple misunderstanding.

Point is not to sell being a ganker. Purpose would be like a public service advisory. Eve is promoted as exploration, war, fleets and all the awesome stuff. Have that guy in a t1 support frig giving a tracking boost to that tier 3 battleship, all that stuff as advert. As for the if people like ganking and suddenly everybody is defensive to it, is that not a good thing? Suddenly getting that good kill is a challenge.

If said person wants just easy tears on unaware noobs. **** on em. They are a hindrance to the game. Won't keep a business afloat catering to them.

On character creation:

"Don't feed the bears"
"When walking through the woods, do this to keep safe"

Quote:

STAY OUT OF THE LONG GRASS!

Edit:

Essentially, lets look at reality. If a person was going to start a new sport, or travel to some exotic location, it is always recommended to get info on the hazards and info on living there. Eve has that, but a video game, who thinks to look up gankers of new players? So is like a travel brochure. When in eve, watch out for the following.

So how do you explain that it has levelled off?

The system rewards knowledge, most notably the kind of you only really get by playing. And no matter how real it feels to you, the game doesn't actually have pay to win — it only has pay to transfer time. Winning is still something you have to achieve on your own merits.

Uhm… yeah. Especially since I don't. There are a few UI changes that only affect sov and which are therefore included in the null count, but that's about it.

Patch notes of Oceanus through Galatea.

So… I'm actually doing the opposite of what you said at first?!
Make up your mind. Am I (supposedly) bloating highsec or null? Or are you simply not reading the legends, where it's quite clear that I don't attribute it to either? Or are you just really really angry that most changes are space-agnostic and that it turns out highsec gets about the same amount of attention as null, and impulsively lash out at whatever slight you imagine that very moment?

Because it takes time to code the 2300 data points in the last year. If you want to do the rest, be my guest.
Coincidentally, the period I picked contains a massive w-space update and a complete sov revamp. So yes, I definitely picked that to ensure that it was skewed towards highsec changes.

The question was number of updates, not gameplay impact.

When someone claims that “the far far majority of updates are only for nullsec.”

Prove it.
You have all the data you need.

Go ahead and dismiss my dismissal... I highly doubt you understand what we are even talking about anyways.

Edit: Just so we are clear, you are so pompous that you actually are calling for Proof of a call for Proof? Got it, you are trolling.

CODE has its place in the game and certainly make hisec more interesting - but killing afk autopiloted superslow freighters is about as carebear as it gets and is not really "elite PvP".

after reading that ccp dude's tongue lashing of a blogger about the state of the game and how the dev's are working to better the game.. I still say.. eve online and ccp still just do not get it..

well they better catch on.. cause its eve vs everyone in 2016.

you better come out of the corner swinging hits cause if you miss ccp games.. someone is going to land a TKO on you.

hope you enjoy boxing..cause the numbers keep on falling and your getting close to a 10 count out.

son.. the numbers are freaking showing right now.. you can sit in denial about all you want to.. but this game is spiraling downward.. you have dev's state they have "visions" just to see what happens then back pedal and change up their vision.. cause obviously they are blind..

they do not get it.. if that vision were correct then we'd be seeing positive numbers. however 14k to 19k active players online is not a vision I would even think to try to brag about. eve is dying