EVE General Discussion

Yeah. I have to admit that over the past year working 6 day (and occasionally 7 day) weeks with no vacation, much of the appeal of Eve for me has been the ability to log on for just a few minutes to change skill ques, and then feel like I had achieved something.

Coming back after 2 weeks basically cut off from the game, to see that one of my characters was getting close to finishing a long training skill has kind of eased the frustration of having no time to do anything.

But for the rest of the game: everything takes so long! Or just about. Marketing can be done on my schedule. Maybe PI (haven't tried it yet.) Missions have the problem that I often fail them because I have to go, and I never get any free time to come back before they expire.

Yep, only gankers will be affected.

Oh yeah and CCP employees.

Personally, I rarely do "EVE is dying" and I do like EVE, I just don't only like EVE. This time round though it legitimately looks bad.

Shameless repost of my beautiful diagram (cos content):

http://i.imgur.com/r2luKMs.jpg

I think Eve needs to have a fundamental change in thinking. For all too long certain vets and groups I believe have held back the game for their own purposes. (and im a vet btw)

CCP never took any bold steps and its seriously affected the game especially drawing in new people. Vets are not the future of eve, they will leave eventually, new players are the future and eve needs to be built on the future not the now. Yes there will be people who sulk and unsub but thats part of natural progression and CCP should not be afraid of that.

They started making some grounds with the jump fatigue, although i think it needs a bit of a tweak, where people should be able to chose their jump range (between 5-15 LY) which then affects the fatigue timer. This would really help.

Fozzie sov was genuius tbh, making people live and defend their space if they want sov was the right thing to do, too many large organisations holding space, doing nothing to defend it, and being able to jump acroos the universe in 5 minutes to defend it with 500 supers was just plain wrong. This makes people only take what they need and what they can defend. Although I still think we have a coaltion issue and how many people alliances can blue. Because I dont see the north ever losing a few systems becasue they are so tightly integrated.

But a big change which was great for eve. tweak it but dont change it CCP, this now give smaller groups the chance to own sov. Bravo.

So what else needs to change?
The game is still too simulation type, spreadsheets etc. to attract people

Get away from eve is niche crap.

Scamming is the biggest issue for new players. Man this has to be stopped. Sorry 10 years ago might of been cool and new but no its making people leave quickly. a one month old person doesnt understand the game, and gets scammed easily after all the time hes spent earning isk. After that he just thinks cant be bothered with that crap and ccp dont care so bye. Stop scamming! Corp thefts fine, but out and out blatant scamming needs to stop. Yes it does..

People want to pilot in cockpits!

The UI for PVP is terrible

Missions are boring as hell, make them interactive a bit like the missions in X3 for example

I have no real feeling of the npc races, they dont feel real to me. Make them come to life, i want to interact with them. All i see is icons that i kill.

I hate the skilling in eve, i can play for 10 years and some guy can play for 1 month and kill me, it shouldnt be about the range of things you can fit but how long you have been playing and using something as well. There is no reason to skill up if you just want to be focused. I could specialise in a few months and never have to skill again, because i can have one ship that is op for certain situations.

Let people make more ISK, whats this aversion to make isk? The more you make the more you will spend and the more pvping you can do.


Drag bubbles what the hell....

Mobile bubbles - what the hell... AFK camping.. seriously if you want to camp you need a specialised bubble ship, like a dictor, get rid of bubbles full stop

afk cloakers, sorry ridiculous you cant scan them down, they should leave a footprint over time, or their cap drains so that they end up uncloaking, or max time to cloak implemented. We need a solution..

More 0.0 npc space

Make supers actually be super motherships, that can move and hold lots of ships and people.

Titans - not sure about these anymore... there are too many of them..Maybe like them dock motherships, that could be fun. Maybe become mobile stations in away people can use them in the same way, but they can move about. That could be fun too.

oh im sure i have more...

FTFY

My concern (if it can be called that) is for the continuation of the game. No, I'm not overly concerned about the devs, but I'm still not going to pretend like the game losing subs is good news all round. I imagine CCP wants customers, and I'd like them to have costomers even if it's for selfish reasons such as the further development of EVE.

That's probably because you read only a handful of my posts and even those you tend to take away more of what you imagine I'm saying than what I really am. If "as long as you can remember" is "a couple of years", then sure, I've been on that train, because that's how long I've thought that CCP is beating away at the same used up market. And sure, I do believe some people have it too easy, but because they kill stuff they feel like they are exempt from requiring a challenge.

The thing is, you have some personal problem with me from some random time I've said something you disagreed with, so now no matter what I say you're automatically blinded by your own preconceptions. That doesn't mean I'm wrong, it just means you can't be objective. Objectively the playerbase has gone from 42k to 36k average year on year from the previous 12 months. Whatever way you shake it that's not a good sign.

That's impersonation.

your face is ugly and i shouldnt play this game because people like you are in it.. people that disagree with everythng, dont want change and happy to screw it up for everyone else...quote that..

You're not overly concerned for the devs, color me surprised, even though it was you who mentioned them in the 1st place.

I too imagine CCP wants customers. What they want isn't our concern. No one wants EVE to continue more than I do, and If I thought there was some major problem, I'd say so. But you people (yes, including you) have been crying wolf for so long it's hard to know when a real problem exists



I know self awareness isn't your strong suit, but I find it amazing how 'misunderstood' you think you are . As if the rest of us imagine your posts, as if we can't read the English language. If there is a problem with how you are perceived (and not just how I perceive you, or did you notice that I'm not even in the top 10 of people you argue with around here), a good idea is to track down the problem via use of a mirror.

That's the big thing I think, you're not even honest enoguh with yourself about your self to have a conversation with, which is one of (but by no means the only) reason you're in the middle of these kinds of conversations all the time. Try to be honest, try to stop being a damn politician every time you post. Say what you mean instead of hemming and hawing about. For once at least.

As for the subject, the 'player base' hasn't done anything, not that you can tell, numbers of accounts online don't mean anything, unless you think I'm 4 people every time I log in my 4 accounts every night.

Once all the systems have been conquered by the evil [MSMKT] alliance, there's only the ability to accept whatever the NPCs will give us.